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Post by . on Mar 17, 2019 12:23:03 GMT
A small picky point- it seemed like massive overkill to have 3 CMs on the bench and only Mata as a forward option. I know Greenwood is out but where was Chong? Agree totally Stewart, found that strange! |
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Post by _ on Mar 17, 2019 13:52:21 GMT
We don't have the squad or 11 even to compete for what would have been a sort of treble since Ole came in. Turning around a 12 point deficit to get 4th, with a team that had given up and were playing some shit football without any real playing style! FA Cup with some seriously tough unlucky away draws and a really tough set of draws in the CL plus some really tough injuries during this spell
Ole and team have done a tremendous job and there are probably some amazing turning points and results ahead of us this season. We should still believe we will get 4th and will have held our own in Europe against some top teams at the very least!
The injuries completely disrupted our form and shape right from that Liverpool game and it also highlights the lack of depth in that squad that needs to be redressed. The only positives from that result yesterday it's a wake up call of where we are at and some important game time for Lingard, Matic, Hererra and Martial.. They clearly needed it
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Post by bushy1987 on Mar 17, 2019 13:55:58 GMT
It was always poch for me for the job until ole came in and has done what he has done, we all know the squad needs work to make us a genuine title challenger tho, ole has put himself right in contention for the job and I would be more then happy with him taking the job full time, just as I would be just as happy if poch got the job, but unless we dont actualy significantly improve the squad this is the level we will be at regardless who is in charge.
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Post by Bestie on Mar 17, 2019 14:31:44 GMT
We weren’t lucky to beat Soton, we were the better team. Last minute goal has nothing to do with it. Leicester had a few chances but they were at home so no more than usual. Chelsea were lucky to beat Fulham and quite a few others recently in that case. Brighton yes, we were hanging on a bit. Spurs we probably should have drawn, which would still have been a good result. Burnley yes. PSG? What chances, bar Mbappe’s did they really miss? We might have been lucky to win by 2 goals but we were worth the win. So what, 3 games we had a bit of luck? Which is almost balanced by the losses to Arsenal and the first game against PSG, where we had no luck at all. We were robbed with only a point against Liverpool on the basis of luck. |
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Post by smithy2 on Mar 17, 2019 20:05:52 GMT
Still trying to balance the high of PSG to the low of yesterday. Football is a fickle sport.
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Post by juanveron on Mar 18, 2019 5:26:07 GMT
Still trying to balance the high of PSG to the low of yesterday. Football is a fickle sport. The international break is coming at a decent time I think. The squad is way too hungover from the PSG win.. I'm getting the sense that some of these players think that they've done their bit for the season. |
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Post by redcase on Mar 18, 2019 5:51:34 GMT
Still trying to balance the high of PSG to the low of yesterday. Football is a fickle sport. The international break is coming at a decent time I think. The squad is way too hangover from the PSG win.. I'm getting the sense that some of these players think that they've done their bit for the season. What does it mean hung over from the PSG win ? Like, why would you be hung over after a result like that ? I'd assume it would be the greatest galvaniser for the rest of your season . The scouse result and the PSG result had one thing common and that's the midfield. 3 hi energy players who literally worked their socks off. |
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Post by alt on Mar 18, 2019 12:01:17 GMT
As good as its been up to now, I still really don’t think Ole is the number one solution. This loss isn’t the reasoning behind this either. So what’s the reasoning then? The turnaround has been fantastic. Every team has a dip in form. Because as well as Ole has done, he's yet to convince me that tactically, he can get us competing with the very best again. We've had a great run of results and he deserves plenty of credit for it, but man management has played a massive part in this upturn. He's taken a squad of unhappy, demotivated players and got them playing again which was always going to produce results. Teams are adapting to the way we play and starting to somewhat nullify our approach, so it's going to be a big test for Ole to see if he can evolve the way we play. If he can start to show that before the end of the season then maybe I'll start to think differently, but for now, I'm very much still in the mindset that for long term, Pochettino is right choice. |
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Post by ScholesEvilTwin on Mar 18, 2019 12:27:06 GMT
Ah, so Pogba gets a pass because. So, this time next year when the lads can't be arsed (again, in plenty of cases), it will be "thanks Ole but no thanks" and the players get another free pass. And then excuses get made to give the players another season to sack another manager. Yippee Where did I say he gets a pass? I said he’s way down the list of things that need to be fixed, not that he was irreplaceable. You are advocating selling your best outfield player because he’s too inconsistent. In which case you have to replace him with a player who does the things he’s capable of (City away last year, Spurs and Chelsea in the Cup this year) week in, week out, or else you’ve weakened your team significantly. With who exactly? Who is going to produce those types of performances every game? There is literally only one I can think of, De Bruyne and we haven’t a hope in hell of getting him. So who are we replacing him with? Fair enough there's no direct replacement, but so what? Take a chance on a young midfielder or bring in a different type of mid and change the shape. He needs to step up more. Especially when the rest of the team isn't. That's part of the job of being captain. But, as you said, there are more pressing priorities in the squad. Especially given that Ed is the one doing the negotiations & Madrid are likely to come sniffing for De Gea. Although we will need to replace Pogba if Zidane decides he wants him too. |
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Post by mightyez on Mar 18, 2019 13:11:11 GMT
genuinely wonder why rene wasn't brought back in, tactically he is very sharp.
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Post by Karma on Mar 18, 2019 13:11:50 GMT
So what’s the reasoning then? The turnaround has been fantastic. Every team has a dip in form. Because as well as Ole has done, he's yet to convince me that tactically, he can get us competing with the very best again. We've had a great run of results and he deserves plenty of credit for it, but man management has played a massive part in this upturn. He's taken a squad of unhappy, demotivated players and got them playing again which was always going to produce results. Teams are adapting to the way we play and starting to somewhat nullify our approach, so it's going to be a big test for Ole to see if he can evolve the way we play. If he can start to show that before the end of the season then maybe I'll start to think differently, but for now, I'm very much still in the mindset that for long term, Pochettino is right choice. Yep, long term I’m not convinced! Why does he seem to take ages as well with his subs ? You could see it was a matter of time before Wolves scored. I think it’s a combination of him overachieving with the squad and Jose hitting rock bottom. Our level is somewhere in between! Unless serious investment happens in the summer I think the performances will drop if it doesn’t happen sooner! If we don’t get top 4 next summer the Glazers won’t be afraid to give him his marching orders either! |
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Post by GeniusCantona on Mar 18, 2019 13:14:00 GMT
So what’s the reasoning then? The turnaround has been fantastic. Every team has a dip in form. Because as well as Ole has done, he's yet to convince me that tactically, he can get us competing with the very best again. We've had a great run of results and he deserves plenty of credit for it, but man management has played a massive part in this upturn. He's taken a squad of unhappy, demotivated players and got them playing again which was always going to produce results. Teams are adapting to the way we play and starting to somewhat nullify our approach, so it's going to be a big test for Ole to see if he can evolve the way we play. If he can start to show that before the end of the season then maybe I'll start to think differently, but for now, I'm very much still in the mindset that for long term, Pochettino is right choice. We should’ve beat Arsenal but for poor finishing and we had a bad game against Wolves where we forced players back into the team who were coming off injuries. It’s a pretty massive over reaction to suggest Ole is tactically being found out based on this slight dip in form. |
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Post by alt on Mar 18, 2019 13:22:49 GMT
Because as well as Ole has done, he's yet to convince me that tactically, he can get us competing with the very best again. We've had a great run of results and he deserves plenty of credit for it, but man management has played a massive part in this upturn. He's taken a squad of unhappy, demotivated players and got them playing again which was always going to produce results. Teams are adapting to the way we play and starting to somewhat nullify our approach, so it's going to be a big test for Ole to see if he can evolve the way we play. If he can start to show that before the end of the season then maybe I'll start to think differently, but for now, I'm very much still in the mindset that for long term, Pochettino is right choice. We should’ve beat Arsenal but for poor finishing and we had a bad game against Wolves where we forced players back into the team who were coming off injuries. It’s a pretty massive over reaction to suggest Ole is tactically being found out based on this slight dip in form. It's not based on this slight dip in form, it's based on everything we've seen up to this point. |
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Post by GeniusCantona on Mar 18, 2019 13:36:40 GMT
We should’ve beat Arsenal but for poor finishing and we had a bad game against Wolves where we forced players back into the team who were coming off injuries. It’s a pretty massive over reaction to suggest Ole is tactically being found out based on this slight dip in form. It's not based on this slight dip in form, it's based on everything we've seen up to this point. Then you must be watching a different United. |
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Post by Karma on Mar 18, 2019 13:38:23 GMT
It's not based on this slight dip in form, it's based on everything we've seen up to this point. Then you must be watching a different United. Well I agree with him so we must be sharing the same TV? |
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