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Post by smithy2 on Apr 16, 2019 21:57:10 GMT
It’s also just utterly mind boggling that we’ve had 4 managers, spent probably over 500 million and yet we have 3 fergie era players in defense. One of them was bought as a midfielder as well .
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Post by . on Apr 16, 2019 21:57:54 GMT
Same back four effectively tonight as it was against Basel eight years ago.
Just heard that on the radio.
What johnboy14 said our defence needs to be demolished ^
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Post by Chris on Apr 16, 2019 21:58:48 GMT
Bit much to suggest OGS should not be in charge. Young and Smalling are both not good enough, no doubt, but they are the best he can muster at the moment. If and when this defense gets replaced, you will see the gap close between United and some of these other big teams. Tonight highlighted just how poor the back 5 can be when forced to play in space. There were glimpses of quality tonight. Followed by the same sort of poor mistakes that have cost United time and time again. Bonus couple of games to be honest. United were a shambles this season and made a good run to get to the quarters. Give OGS a little credit. Far better teams in far better situations have been bounced by UEFAlona. I agree he deserves credit for turning our season around, but he made a big error selecting young, one we paid for instantly. We have every chance of making the CL spots which would be a result after Joses mess. Personally i think the club should of held out to the summer before deciding on the manager but right now I just hope the club back him in the summer and get a director of football that can help build a squad over the next few seasons. That back 4 needs demolishing and rebuilt somehow. We cant fix the whole team in a window, so lets try and fix something this time around. Theres no quick fix here,the club has been mismanaged for 5 years, it could take 3 or 4 to get back and compete at this level. A lack of money isnt the issue its poor choices primarily. Exactly what I'm getting at. Not going to include Barca as we were never going to get through them, but the other week, we could have gone 3rd. Now, with limp league performances, we'll be lucky to make 4th. I didn't say Ole shouldn't have got the job. I'm saying we shouldn't have announced it so early. And he did a great job getting us back in contention, but now we are here, to not make it would be a fail. Forget the Jose stuff from before. This is where we are now. |
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Post by jkr on Apr 16, 2019 22:08:06 GMT
I agree he deserves credit for turning our season around, but he made a big error selecting young, one we paid for instantly. We have every chance of making the CL spots which would be a result after Joses mess. Personally i think the club should of held out to the summer before deciding on the manager but right now I just hope the club back him in the summer and get a director of football that can help build a squad over the next few seasons. That back 4 needs demolishing and rebuilt somehow. We cant fix the whole team in a window, so lets try and fix something this time around. Theres no quick fix here,the club has been mismanaged for 5 years, it could take 3 or 4 to get back and compete at this level. A lack of money isnt the issue its poor choices primarily. Exactly what I'm getting at. Not going to include Barca as we were never going to get through them, but the other week, we could have gone 3rd. Now, with limp league performances, we'll be lucky to make 4th. I didn't say Ole shouldn't have got the job. I'm saying we shouldn't have announced it so early. And he did a great job getting us back in contention, but now we are here, to not make it would be a fail. Forget the Jose stuff from before. This is where we are now. I think the announcement of Ole as permanent manager is a lame excuse, yes we've certainly took a downturn since then but what does that say about how weak this group of players is if they've let that effect them? The mercs have to go, end of. Things have taken a downturn since the last international window imo when that f****** flat track bully c*** Pogba started his flirting with Madrid again. Please Ed Woodward do this one thing for us this summer POGBA OUT. |
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Post by smithy2 on Apr 16, 2019 22:09:54 GMT
Realistically speaking its going to take about 500 million pounds to overturn the squad and turn us into an Elite contender again. That's how bad it's become. Totally agree. Get the fucking Saudi's in as soon as possible. Genuinely don’t get the support for a Saudi takeover |
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Post by Carbon on Apr 16, 2019 22:13:40 GMT
Totally agree. Get the fucking Saudi's in as soon as possible. Genuinely don’t get the support for a Saudi takeover  |
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Post by Chris on Apr 16, 2019 22:15:07 GMT
Totally agree. Get the fucking Saudi's in as soon as possible. Genuinely don’t get the support for a Saudi takeover Agree. There is winning then winning no matter the cost. |
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Post by Stew on Apr 16, 2019 22:16:09 GMT
Totally agree. Get the fucking Saudi's in as soon as possible. Genuinely don’t get the support for a Saudi takeover As I said in the transfer thread, it’s repugnant but it’s the only way Utd get back to the top. It’s not happening under the Glazers and Woodward. |
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Post by Bestie on Apr 16, 2019 22:18:45 GMT
Genuinely don’t get the support for a Saudi takeover Agree. There is winning then winning no matter the cost. I'll take the winning thanks. The game is corrupt to the core now anyway. |
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Post by smithy2 on Apr 16, 2019 22:20:58 GMT
Agree. There is winning then winning no matter the cost. I'll take the winning thanks. The game is corrupt to the core now anyway. The game is in a bubble and that bubble will burst. We’re a club with history and a huge fan base. We don’t need the Saudis. |
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Post by Chris on Apr 16, 2019 22:21:25 GMT
Agree. There is winning then winning no matter the cost. I'll take the winning thanks. The game is corrupt to the core now anyway. I was almost gonna say that its irrelevant anyway since football is dead. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2019 22:35:14 GMT
I'll take the winning thanks. The game is corrupt to the core now anyway. The game is in a bubble and that bubble will burst. We’re a club with history and a huge fan base. We don’t need the Saudis. The Saudi's coming in isn't going to change our history but I feel its the only way it will stop us from becoming it. The way things are going for us City have a better chance of catching our 20 than us making it 21, something needs to give for us to go forwards and not hang by a thread. I don't want them coming in but its the lesser of two evils. The evil we have now is choking the club to death, making a mockery of what our history and made us. 6 years now of the same shit, do we really think this summer will be any different with these tossers running the club? |
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Post by smithy2 on Apr 16, 2019 22:40:29 GMT
The game is in a bubble and that bubble will burst. We’re a club with history and a huge fan base. We don’t need the Saudis. The Saudi's coming in isn't going to change our history but I feel its the only way it will stop us from becoming it. The way things are going for us City have a better chance of catching our 20 than us making it 21, something needs to give for us to go forwards and not hang by a thread. I don't want them coming in but its the lesser of two evils. The evil we have now is choking the club to death, making a mockery of what our history and made us. 6 years now of the same shit, do we really think this summer will be any different with these tossers running the club? I’d rather those tossers than take Saudi money. They truly are an atrocious country and your hands are bloody if you are rich in Saudi. |
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Post by Stew on Apr 16, 2019 23:28:50 GMT
Worst ever defeat over two legs in Europe.
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Post by GeniusCantona on Apr 16, 2019 23:29:39 GMT
The Saudi's coming in isn't going to change our history but I feel its the only way it will stop us from becoming it. The way things are going for us City have a better chance of catching our 20 than us making it 21, something needs to give for us to go forwards and not hang by a thread. I don't want them coming in but its the lesser of two evils. The evil we have now is choking the club to death, making a mockery of what our history and made us. 6 years now of the same shit, do we really think this summer will be any different with these tossers running the club? I’d rather those tossers than take Saudi money. They truly are an atrocious country and your hands are bloody if you are rich in Saudi. I’d rather have Saudis pump their money into the club for the benefit of bolstering the kingdom’s image rather then the gimps suck the money out of the club for their own financial benefit. |
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