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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 10:48:08 GMT
We always had one or two youth graduates in and around the squad/first team. O'Shea, Fletcher, Cleverly, Evans. As we aren't just about promoting from our youth teams it is about giving other young prospects a platform. Rooney was in his teens, as was Ronaldo. Jones was, what, 18, when we signed him? Saying we didn't retain that identity right to the end of Fergie's reign is complete revisionism. You can try to strawman the discussion back to signings all you like. Your question was, 'What is our style?' - people have answered you. The Da Silva's were kids. Smalling was what, 21 when we signed him? Varela was signed by Fergie as a kid. Anderson was 20, Nani 21. I could go on... As for British kids in the latter Fergie years, no one stood out. If he was still in charge now, he'd be rubbing his hands in glee at the embarrasment of riches he could choose from. Hudson-Odoi Rice Maddison Gomes Sancho Hell, he would've had a cheeky go to get Rhian Brewster I bet. This doesn't even include young foreign talent he would've been hell-bent on getting. Neves Jota De Ligt Tielemans Let's not smear Fergie with rotten revisionism to fit a current narrative. He was one of a kind but you'd swear he was average reading some people on here. |
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Post by Karma on May 1, 2019 10:56:51 GMT
We always had one or two youth graduates in and around the squad/first team. O'Shea, Fletcher, Cleverly, Evans. As we aren't just about promoting from our youth teams it is about giving other young prospects a platform. Rooney was in his teens, as was Ronaldo. Jones was, what, 18, when we signed him? Saying we didn't retain that identity right to the end of Fergie's reign is complete revisionism. You can try to strawman the discussion back to signings all you like. Your question was, 'What is our style?' - people have answered you. The Da Silva's were kids. Smalling was what, 21 when we signed him? Varela was signed by Fergie as a kid. Anderson was 20, Nani 21. I could go on... As for British kids in the latter Fergie years, no one stood out. If he was still in charge now, he'd be rubbing his hands in glee at the embarrasment of riches he could choose from. Hudson-Odoi Rice Maddison Gomes Sancho Hell, he would've had a cheeky go to get Rhian Brewster I bet. This doesn't even include young foreign talent he would've been hell-bent on getting. Neves Jota De Ligt Tielemans Let's not smear Fergie with rotten revisionism to fit a current narrative. I was referring to bringing kids through not buying them which is why I mentioned Wes Brown. It’s like some fans claiming Pogba came through our academy when in reality he spent most of his time elsewhere. Or Janazai even. Sancho, Sterling were youth products from elsewhere rather than their previous clubs. |
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Post by Karma on May 1, 2019 10:58:39 GMT
The Da Silva's were kids. Smalling was what, 21 when we signed him? Varela was signed by Fergie as a kid. Anderson was 20, Nani 21. I could go on... As for British kids in the latter Fergie years, no one stood out. If he was still in charge now, he'd be rubbing his hands in glee at the embarrasment of riches he could choose from. Hudson-Odoi Rice Maddison Gomes Sancho Hell, he would've had a cheeky go to get Rhian Brewster I bet. This doesn't even include young foreign talent he would've been hell-bent on getting. Neves Jota De Ligt Tielemans Let's not smear Fergie with rotten revisionism to fit a current narrative. He was one of a kind but you'd swear he was average reading some people on here. Who said he was average? Not read anything like that on here? |
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Post by Bestie on May 1, 2019 11:26:59 GMT
We always had one or two youth graduates in and around the squad/first team. O'Shea, Fletcher, Cleverly, Evans. As we aren't just about promoting from our youth teams it is about giving other young prospects a platform. Rooney was in his teens, as was Ronaldo. Jones was, what, 18, when we signed him? Saying we didn't retain that identity right to the end of Fergie's reign is complete revisionism. You can try to strawman the discussion back to signings all you like. Your question was, 'What is our style?' - people have answered you. But Doherty, Atkinson, Busby and Fergie had different styles from what I remember. Isn’t this really Fergies style we are taking about? He was here so long it’s what most of us remember as United? Why do fans expect a continuation of this? Had Pep come here with a totally different way of playing and been successful we wouldn’t have been reminiscing about the good old days and how it was then. I liked how we played under Fergie but it’s not a prerequisite for how his predecessors should imo. We are in danger of being fixated on something that was unique to one man. We played attacking, exciting football with lots of young players in the team under Busby, The Doc and Big Ron FFS. Busby was basically the start of the modern Manchester United as a global super club. Even then those traditions go back to our earliest existence. Our top goalscorer the first time we won the League was 23 years old for goodness sake. Most of the squad were in their 20s. We outscored everyone too. Trying to suggest that was only a Ferguson idea is utter, utter, nonsense. |
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Post by Pixel on May 1, 2019 11:34:08 GMT
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Post by Tatty on May 1, 2019 11:37:27 GMT
The Da Silva's were kids. Smalling was what, 21 when we signed him? Varela was signed by Fergie as a kid. Anderson was 20, Nani 21. I could go on... As for British kids in the latter Fergie years, no one stood out. If he was still in charge now, he'd be rubbing his hands in glee at the embarrasment of riches he could choose from. Hudson-Odoi Rice Maddison Gomes Sancho Hell, he would've had a cheeky go to get Rhian Brewster I bet. This doesn't even include young foreign talent he would've been hell-bent on getting. Neves Jota De Ligt Tielemans Let's not smear Fergie with rotten revisionism to fit a current narrative. I was referring to bringing kids through not buying them which is why I mentioned Wes Brown. It’s like some fans claiming Pogba came through our academy when in reality he spent most of his time elsewhere. Or Janazai even. Sancho, Sterling were youth products from elsewhere rather than their previous clubs. Ok, from the youth ranks after Wes Brown. O'Shea Fletcher Evans Gibson FFS, sit down and think for 5 minutes. |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 11:37:30 GMT
Considering what he's don't at Ajax I'd love to see Edwin back. He's done a fantastic job in rebuilding them.
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Post by Bestie on May 1, 2019 11:39:53 GMT
Schmikes has some interesting views on wider football governance. He isn't a DoF though. Then again Ed doesn't really want a DoF. |
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Post by Bestie on May 1, 2019 11:40:23 GMT
Considering what he's don't at Ajax I'd love to see Edwin back. He's done a fantastic job in rebuilding them. So you actually want Overmars then. |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 11:43:35 GMT
Considering what he's don't at Ajax I'd love to see Edwin back. He's done a fantastic job in rebuilding them. So you actually want Overmars then. No no, Edwin will suffice. He's far more suitable to the role than some that have been mentioned, in particular Rio. Plus I'd be lying if I said I didn't want to see him back at the club. Although I'm sure whoever they bring in Ed will still meddle and manage to fuck things up. |
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Post by bushy1987 on May 1, 2019 11:46:07 GMT
Considering what he's don't at Ajax I'd love to see Edwin back. He's done a fantastic job in rebuilding them. So you actually want Overmars then. It's not just a 1 man operation at ajax they have just shown how a proper club is run from top to bottom, we could do alot worse then getting vds back in some sort of capacity |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 11:55:27 GMT
I will add from the list of names also mentioned Paul Mitchell should also be on the tip of that list given some of the talent he's dealt with.
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Post by bushy1987 on May 1, 2019 11:57:49 GMT
This dof or what ever the club want to call it as should of been done before ole was appointed its just another fuck up again that will drag on and on with out fuck all happening
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 12:39:04 GMT
Schmikes has some interesting views on wider football governance. He isn't a DoF though. Then again Ed doesn't really want a DoF. He also said we should have given Moyes more time which should really preclude him from even being allowed in the car park. |
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Post by Bestie on May 1, 2019 13:06:09 GMT
So you actually want Overmars then. It's not just a 1 man operation at ajax they have just shown how a proper club is run from top to bottom, we could do alot worse then getting vds back in some sort of capacity Edwin's role at Ajax is basically Ed's without the transfer dickery. Overmars is the one getting players. |
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