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Post by juanveron on Nov 2, 2019 16:55:46 GMT
Nothing new about today sadly. The lack of creativity in the side is bordering on criminal. There is literally one player in the whole squad that can pick a pass, and that’s Pogba. And he brings his own issues. James is capable of a good run and cross, Rashford can use his speed to good effect but as we enter November, the stark reality is none of us have any idea as to where the goals are supposed to come from. This has been said so many times already, but it's truly unbelievable that we went into the season with this squad. Ole needs to pray he can last till January (assuming of course we'll actually do something to fix some of the mess). |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2019 17:01:28 GMT
I'll be amazed if Ole makes it to Christmas. The good will of the Chelsea result will buy him another month but today was shocking.
Pereira and Fred doing their best to get a move to the Championship
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Post by ScholesEvilTwin on Nov 2, 2019 17:01:46 GMT
Sorry but Fred was shit. Has been since he signed. The odd couple of mediocre performances aside, he isn't good enough. He needs to improve definitely. There are signs of a quality player there I just hope it comes out somehow. I'll wait until the end of this season before deciding if he's good enough, I'll give him a fair chance to prove e hi self before writing him off. Given how shit we were Thought he was decent today. Far worse players out there today. The odd good tackle and that isn't enough. He just really isn't good enough. No amount of settling in is going to help. Too many misplaced passes, too many shit decisions, too many times you watch the ball pass millimetres in front of him and he just stands and fucking watches it. City tucked us up like kippers on the deal. 52 million?? Not worth 52p. |
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Post by ScholesEvilTwin on Nov 2, 2019 17:05:00 GMT
I'll be amazed if Ole makes it to Christmas. The good will of the Chelsea result will buy him another month but today was shocking. Pereira and Fred doing their best to get a move to the Championship And the majority of the players will get another pass to another manager. Who will then be sacked, and the players will carry on to another. Unless a manager is afforded time to gut the squad fully - and the shit results that will happen until this is completed fully - this cycle will keep happening. At some point the medicine has to be swallowed. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2019 17:06:36 GMT
I'll be amazed if Ole makes it to Christmas. The good will of the Chelsea result will buy him another month but today was shocking. Pereira and Fred doing their best to get a move to the Championship And the majority of the players will get another pass to another manager. Who will then be sacked, and the players will carry on to another. Unless a manager is afforded time to gut the squad fully - and the shit results that will happen until this is completed fully - this cycle will keep happening. At some point the medicine has to be swallowed. Couldn't agree more. I wrote something almost verbatim to this when Mourinho was about to get sacked. The players who arent good enough remain. |
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Post by Bestie on Nov 2, 2019 17:10:56 GMT
I'll be amazed if Ole makes it to Christmas. The good will of the Chelsea result will buy him another month but today was shocking. Pereira and Fred doing their best to get a move to the Championship And the majority of the players will get another pass to another manager. Who will then be sacked, and the players will carry on to another. Unless a manager is afforded time to gut the squad fully - and the shit results that will happen until this is completed fully - this cycle will keep happening. At some point the medicine has to be swallowed. No manager will be able to rebuild the squad fully with the owners. We're fucked. |
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Post by ScholesEvilTwin on Nov 2, 2019 17:15:43 GMT
And the majority of the players will get another pass to another manager. Who will then be sacked, and the players will carry on to another. Unless a manager is afforded time to gut the squad fully - and the shit results that will happen until this is completed fully - this cycle will keep happening. At some point the medicine has to be swallowed. No manager will be able to rebuild the squad fully with the owners. We're fucked. There is always that Spectre looming over it all, yes. I take that as a given now, which is why I don't mention it. |
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Post by Rustin Cohle on Nov 2, 2019 17:26:34 GMT
No manager will be able to rebuild the squad fully with the owners. We're fucked. There is always that Spectre looming over it all, yes. I take that as a given now, which is why I don't mention it. It's a catch-22 isn't it. It's the correct answer to so many of this club's questions, and yet we don't say it sometimes because it's just so depressing and dull to repeat it ad nauseam, no matter how true it is. |
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Post by mightyez on Nov 2, 2019 17:49:48 GMT
Whilst the current owners are here it’s not too much to ask for decent style and goals
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Post by ScholesEvilTwin on Nov 2, 2019 17:59:14 GMT
There is always that Spectre looming over it all, yes. I take that as a given now, which is why I don't mention it. It's a catch-22 isn't it. It's the correct answer to so many of this club's questions, and yet we don't say it sometimes because it's just so depressing and dull to repeat it ad nauseam, no matter how true it is. Yup. Im basing my thoughts on that particular problem being there regardless. Get rid of the owners and give us someone that will let the club flex their financial muscle properly and things are very different. But until then everything has to be based on having that noose hanging around. Which is the difference between a 1-2 season fix and a 4-5 season fix at best. |
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Post by Ole's Red Whiteknight03 Army on Nov 2, 2019 17:59:44 GMT
Fred , Pereira and lingard are just not good enough. They may occasionally have a good game but will always return to their true level. When are we going to add Martial to this list? He’s got more than a touch of the Anelkas about him. Gets his share of the goals but goes AWOL when it matters. |
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Post by ScholesEvilTwin on Nov 2, 2019 18:02:44 GMT
Whilst the current owners are here it’s not too much to ask for decent style and goals Go on then, how do you propose to get Fred and Lingard (amongst a good few others) playing better? Just chucking the youngsters in won't help either side. Especially with our fan base and the general scrutiny from outsiders that comes as standard. 5 at the back seemed to be working given the lack of options in midfield. But we ditched that today and lost. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2019 18:11:26 GMT
Today lay with the players. They started the game well, first 15-20 minutes they were at it like the Norwich game in terms of pressure and energy but failed to capitalise, they weren't good enough to create the openings and score the goals. That led to Bournemouth riding the early storm and getting some confidence towards the end of the half and being gifted the lead.
Then we know how these guys usually respond when things aren't going well, let alone having to break down a side defending deep.
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Post by johnboy14 on Nov 2, 2019 18:21:28 GMT
There is always that Spectre looming over it all, yes. I take that as a given now, which is why I don't mention it. It's a catch-22 isn't it. It's the correct answer to so many of this club's questions, and yet we don't say it sometimes because it's just so depressing and dull to repeat it ad nauseam, no matter how true it is. Theres no catch 22 in my mind, Ole is in survival mode now, yes the squad needs an overhaul but Ole is not good enough to manage our first team period. We are a bottom half now, i believe with competent management we would be higher up. I think the Ole and Phelan experiment needs hitting on the head, im looking for signs from them about where we are going and its not encouraging |
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Post by alwaysUnited on Nov 2, 2019 18:23:59 GMT
Fred , Pereira and lingard are just not good enough. They may occasionally have a good game but will always return to their true level. When are we going to add Martial to this list? He’s got more than a touch of the Anelkas about him. Gets his share of the goals but goes AWOL when it matters. Reluctant to add Martial to that list yet.Because the talent is there(unlike the above 3) , at 23 he may yet develop into the player we all think he can be and unlike mr pogba he seem to love the club atleast. Honestly am not sure any forward can do much with kind of midfield we have right now. That doesnt excuse his shit effort like today but we have done the hard work , should give may be one more season to see if it all works out. Dont want another de bryne like situation with him |
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