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Post by aussiegraham on Apr 2, 2020 2:31:17 GMT
Rate Kane highly but think Martial has a higher ceiling. All ifs and buts but with Bruno, Scott back and a fully fit rashford I think martial scores goals. Throw Sancho in the mix and I think he would hang better with the pace of sancho and rashford than Kane would. The way they would interchange would be sexy Martial's problem is his inconsistency and a lot of the time his laziness. The frustrating part is the ability is there. Is he lazy though? I used to think the same of Berba, but in hindsight, and listening to the experts summations since, I was wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2020 4:34:02 GMT
Martial's problem is his inconsistency and a lot of the time his laziness. The frustrating part is the ability is there. Is he lazy though? I used to think the same of Berba, but in hindsight, and listening to the experts summations since, I was wrong. There are times where he has been I think. When you compare Rashfords work rate he never stops whereas there are moments where Martial is just jogging or fast walking and it's been noticed a lot. Perhaps it's his attitude rather than genuine laziness. Either way he hasn't reached the level he should have by now so begs the question why is this?
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Post by Stew on Apr 2, 2020 7:10:32 GMT
Pogba for Sancho yes. Kane no. You’d take Martial over Kane straight up, Stew? I actually think the question is skewed slightly. Kane is an excellent player. But we already have Rashford as a CF, who was playing brilliantly before his injury. So in my mind it’s not really Martial over Kane. And also, very importantly, what does buying a Kane do for Greenwood’s development? Particularly if we get Sancho? Greenwood I believe is potentially a better player than Kane anyway. Greenwood has scored 13 goals this season at 20, in a pretty ordinary Utd side. Ighalo is the perfect striker to buy this summer as he’s handy enough and won’t block Mason. Spend the money on Sancho and perhaps Ndidi. That’s good use of funds.
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Post by Sméagol on Apr 2, 2020 7:17:51 GMT
You’d take Martial over Kane straight up, Stew? I actually think the question is skewed slightly. Kane is an excellent player. But we already have Rashford as a CF, who was playing brilliantly before his injury. So in my mind it’s not really Martial over Kane. And also, very importantly, what does buying a Kane do for Greenwood’s development? Particularly if we get Sancho? Greenwood I believe is potentially a better player than Kane anyway. Greenwood has scored 13 goals this season at 20, in a pretty ordinary Utd side. Ighalo is the perfect striker to buy this summer as he’s handy enough and won’t block Mason. Spend the money on Sancho and perhaps Ndidi. That’s good use of funds. He's 18.
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Post by Stew on Apr 2, 2020 7:43:29 GMT
I actually think the question is skewed slightly. Kane is an excellent player. But we already have Rashford as a CF, who was playing brilliantly before his injury. So in my mind it’s not really Martial over Kane. And also, very importantly, what does buying a Kane do for Greenwood’s development? Particularly if we get Sancho? Greenwood I believe is potentially a better player than Kane anyway. Greenwood has scored 13 goals this season at 20, in a pretty ordinary Utd side. Ighalo is the perfect striker to buy this summer as he’s handy enough and won’t block Mason. Spend the money on Sancho and perhaps Ndidi. That’s good use of funds. He's 18. Holy shit I totally forgot. Just backs up my point even more. Ole has his faults but he’s managed Greenwood perfectly. If he continues to do so we could have a generational talent. Think about how good he’ll be when he gets stronger and more experienced. World class potentially.
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Post by Carbon on Apr 2, 2020 9:33:28 GMT
I actually think the question is skewed slightly. Kane is an excellent player. But we already have Rashford as a CF, who was playing brilliantly before his injury. So in my mind it’s not really Martial over Kane. And also, very importantly, what does buying a Kane do for Greenwood’s development? Particularly if we get Sancho? Greenwood I believe is potentially a better player than Kane anyway. Greenwood has scored 13 goals this season at 20, in a pretty ordinary Utd side. Ighalo is the perfect striker to buy this summer as he’s handy enough and won’t block Mason. Spend the money on Sancho and perhaps Ndidi. That’s good use of funds. He's 18.
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Post by Ole's Red Whiteknight03 Army on Apr 2, 2020 15:21:56 GMT
You’d take Martial over Kane straight up, Stew? I actually think the question is skewed slightly. Kane is an excellent player. But we already have Rashford as a CF, who was playing brilliantly before his injury. So in my mind it’s not really Martial over Kane. And also, very importantly, what does buying a Kane do for Greenwood’s development? Particularly if we get Sancho? Greenwood I believe is potentially a better player than Kane anyway. Greenwood has scored 13 goals this season at 20, in a pretty ordinary Utd side. Ighalo is the perfect striker to buy this summer as he’s handy enough and won’t block Mason. Spend the money on Sancho and perhaps Ndidi. That’s good use of funds. That makes much more sense. I’m inclined to agree that the money it would certainly cost to prise Kane from Levy’s cold dead hands would be better served elsewhere, however we spent the earlier part of the season lamenting the absence of a Lukaku replacement. Obviously it’s not Kane or bust, but as there’s precious little else to discuss, was the recent run we were on before the break sustainable? Would the return of Rashford provide enough firepower up front? Or, would we come back to earth and resume our struggles in front of goal and we’d be kicking ourselves for not taking Kane when we had the chance?
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Post by Stew on Apr 2, 2020 15:34:13 GMT
I actually think the question is skewed slightly. Kane is an excellent player. But we already have Rashford as a CF, who was playing brilliantly before his injury. So in my mind it’s not really Martial over Kane. And also, very importantly, what does buying a Kane do for Greenwood’s development? Particularly if we get Sancho? Greenwood I believe is potentially a better player than Kane anyway. Greenwood has scored 13 goals this season at 20, in a pretty ordinary Utd side. Ighalo is the perfect striker to buy this summer as he’s handy enough and won’t block Mason. Spend the money on Sancho and perhaps Ndidi. That’s good use of funds. That makes much more sense. I’m inclined to agree that the money it would certainly cost to prise Kane from Levy’s cold dead hands would be better served elsewhere, however we spent the earlier part of the season lamenting the absence of a Lukaku replacement. Obviously it’s not Kane or bust, but as there’s precious little else to discuss, was the recent run we were on before the break sustainable? Would the return of Rashford provide enough firepower up front? Or, would we come back to earth and resume our struggles in front of goal and we’d be kicking ourselves for not taking Kane when we had the chance? Rashford’s form pre-injury is sustainable I think. Bruno has been producing his numbers for some time now too so he should contribute to a similar level. And Greenwood should also develop. The tricky one is Martial. But if you bring in Sancho then he can play either wing and lessen the importance of Martial’s goals. I don’t think the blowing of at least 150 million on Kane is sensible when we have other glaring holes.
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Post by GeniusCantona on Apr 2, 2020 16:20:41 GMT
Bild reporting that Dortmund are favourites for Bellingham. Would be disappointing missing out on a young English talent when we’re supposedly the biggest club in England.
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Post by bushy1987 on Apr 2, 2020 16:58:29 GMT
If the rest of the squad was at the required level kane's goals win you the league, unless the glazers went full city and bought us all the players kane won't happen, if its a choice between kane and sancho then sancho comes first.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2020 17:37:52 GMT
I actually think the question is skewed slightly. Kane is an excellent player. But we already have Rashford as a CF, who was playing brilliantly before his injury. So in my mind it’s not really Martial over Kane. And also, very importantly, what does buying a Kane do for Greenwood’s development? Particularly if we get Sancho? Greenwood I believe is potentially a better player than Kane anyway. Greenwood has scored 13 goals this season at 20, in a pretty ordinary Utd side. Ighalo is the perfect striker to buy this summer as he’s handy enough and won’t block Mason. Spend the money on Sancho and perhaps Ndidi. That’s good use of funds. He's 18. And scored more goals than Felix and Greizmann this season
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Post by gdmm on Apr 2, 2020 19:38:19 GMT
That makes much more sense. I’m inclined to agree that the money it would certainly cost to prise Kane from Levy’s cold dead hands would be better served elsewhere, however we spent the earlier part of the season lamenting the absence of a Lukaku replacement. Obviously it’s not Kane or bust, but as there’s precious little else to discuss, was the recent run we were on before the break sustainable? Would the return of Rashford provide enough firepower up front? Or, would we come back to earth and resume our struggles in front of goal and we’d be kicking ourselves for not taking Kane when we had the chance? Rashford’s form pre-injury is sustainable I think. Bruno has been producing his numbers for some time now too so he should contribute to a similar level. And Greenwood should also develop. The tricky one is Martial. But if you bring in Sancho then he can play either wing and lessen the importance of Martial’s goals. I don’t think the blowing of at least 150 million on Kane is sensible when we have other glaring holes. Bear in mind Rashford hasn't had a chance to play in front of Fernandes.
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Post by king nothing on Apr 2, 2020 19:55:46 GMT
Rashford’s form pre-injury is sustainable I think. Bruno has been producing his numbers for some time now too so he should contribute to a similar level. And Greenwood should also develop. The tricky one is Martial. But if you bring in Sancho then he can play either wing and lessen the importance of Martial’s goals. I don’t think the blowing of at least 150 million on Kane is sensible when we have other glaring holes. Bear in mind Rashford hasn't had a chance to play in front of Fernandes. Drool.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2020 20:48:02 GMT
Bear in mind Rashford hasn't had a chance to play in front of Fernandes. Drool. *sex wee.
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Post by Diablo Rouge on Apr 2, 2020 21:07:51 GMT
Rashford’s form pre-injury is sustainable I think. Bruno has been producing his numbers for some time now too so he should contribute to a similar level. And Greenwood should also develop. The tricky one is Martial. But if you bring in Sancho then he can play either wing and lessen the importance of Martial’s goals. I don’t think the blowing of at least 150 million on Kane is sensible when we have other glaring holes. Bear in mind Rashford hasn't had a chance to play in front of Fernandes.
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