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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2020 11:33:19 GMT
Dave’s been regressing for a few years now. Yes he still makes some very good saves but it doesn’t make up for the terrible errors. He’s not going to turn it around here.
We have a young goalkeeper who’s got rave reviews for 2 seasons now. He’s not perfect and he’ll make mistakes too but I’d much rather see him backed and given the chance instead of watching De Gea’s continued decline.
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Post by GeniusCantona on Jul 20, 2020 11:38:59 GMT
Bring back Henderson and let him compete for the starting job, simple as that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2020 11:47:34 GMT
Dave’s been regressing for a few years now. Yes he still makes some very good saves but it doesn’t make up for the terrible errors. He’s not going to turn it around here. We have a young goalkeeper who’s got rave reviews for 2 seasons now. He’s not perfect and he’ll make mistakes too but I’d much rather see him backed and given the chance instead of watching De Gea’s continued decline. That was evident yesterday. After the mistakes be pulled off 2 cracking saves, sadly the damage was done by then so they won't get remembered.
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Post by RAZ on Jul 20, 2020 11:48:03 GMT
Bring back Henderson and let him compete for the starting job, simple as that. thats what i said a few weeks ago in the DDG thread. i`m ok if de gea would start as no. 1 next season but if mistakes happen again, he should be replaced and challenged by henderson immediately. now i know thats tough to do if he is the best paid goalkeeper in the world but we cant just keep playing him no matter what because of that. i love the guy but he has been a liability for some time now. the other crucial question is, what will happen with romero? and between romero and henderson, who is actually the better keeper right now. romero hasnt put a foot wrong. made what? maybe one mistake in his career with us? bit of a tought situation and we cant have de gea, henderson and romero.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2020 12:19:55 GMT
Romero as a number one would be an absolute calamity, I’m sure of it. Alright as a number 2 coming in and out of the team against varying levels of opposition without the scrutiny on performances every week.
If Dave leaves. You simply have to give the #1 jersey to Henderson and give him your full backing.
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Post by Karma on Jul 20, 2020 13:48:40 GMT
He’s normally the cup keeper isn’t he, sure he expected to play today I imagine Solskaer wished he had.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2020 14:15:32 GMT
Thought it was odd not starting Romero in a cup game. That being said we didnt even look remotely interested so changing goalkeepers may not have actually done much in the grand scheme of things.
The whole team were way off mark. Basic passing was even a difficult task by most of them.
I've said it before but I'll repeat it because I can emphasise it enough...fuck off with playing from the back aswell. We are shit at it, it doesn't suit us.
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Post by Rustin Cohle on Jul 20, 2020 14:32:18 GMT
Start Henderson next season. Have Dave on the bench, give him the Lindegaard role from 2011/12 (i.e. come in for a few games if Henderson starts to drop clangers to ease the pressure on him). And give him a testemonial - regardless of his recent form he more than deserves it.
If Dave does excellently when he does play and Henderson struggles under the spotlight then Dave can go back to starting.
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Post by Bestie on Jul 20, 2020 14:51:18 GMT
Lindelofs marking was woeful for the first. But Dave should have saved it. Williams pass was sloppy for the 2nd. But Dave definitely should have saved it. Maguire was woeful for the third. But Dave should have had his near post covered. That is basic shit taught at a young age. Our defence was woeful but all 3 goals should have been easily saved. Yep. If Dave does his job and Maguire scores an open goal we probably win that game, even despite being pretty shit for most of it. Chelsea offered nothing when they actually had the ball, bar late on when we were desperately bombing forward to try and score two. Holy flying fuckery, I had blanked that open goal miss from my memory.
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Post by Stew on Jul 20, 2020 14:56:01 GMT
Start Henderson next season. Have Dave on the bench, give him the Lindegaard role from 2011/12 (i.e. come in for a few games if Henderson starts to drop clangers to ease the pressure on him). And give him a testemonial - regardless of his recent form he more than deserves it. If Dave does excellently when he does play and Henderson struggles under the spotlight then Dave can go back to starting. If we make Henderson no1 then De Gea will leave. Despite his errors recently he’s too good and too young for a keeper to become a backup. He’d go back to Spain, where he is first choice now that Kepa has fallen apart. It might need o be a loan with an option to buy but I don’t see him staying.
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Post by Rustin Cohle on Jul 20, 2020 18:17:16 GMT
Start Henderson next season. Have Dave on the bench, give him the Lindegaard role from 2011/12 (i.e. come in for a few games if Henderson starts to drop clangers to ease the pressure on him). And give him a testemonial - regardless of his recent form he more than deserves it. If Dave does excellently when he does play and Henderson struggles under the spotlight then Dave can go back to starting. If we make Henderson no1 then De Gea will leave. Despite his errors recently he’s too good and too young for a keeper to become a backup. He’d go back to Spain, where he is first choice now that Kepa has fallen apart. It might need o be a loan with an option to buy but I don’t see him staying. I reckon he'd give it one season, but you may well be right. If he does, I'd like us to give him a testimonial before he goes, he really does deserve it. I think he needs another season to be technically eligible but I might be wrong - and I'd also wait until fans can come in and bring him back for it, rather than play it to an empty stadium.
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Post by Rustin Cohle on Jul 20, 2020 18:18:01 GMT
Yep. If Dave does his job and Maguire scores an open goal we probably win that game, even despite being pretty shit for most of it. Chelsea offered nothing when they actually had the ball, bar late on when we were desperately bombing forward to try and score two. Holy flying fuckery, I had blanked that open goal miss from my memory. Jealous. Wish I had that power. Do you remember Moyes?
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Post by bobbins, again for some reason on Jul 20, 2020 18:30:44 GMT
After yesterday’s defeat, ESPN have pointed out that this is the first time in 31 years that we’ve gone 3 consecutive seasons without winning a domestic trophy.
Didn’t realise that was the case. Interesting observation from them, I must say.
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Post by Stretty on Jul 20, 2020 19:52:40 GMT
After yesterday’s defeat, ESPN have pointed out that this is the first time in 31 years that we’ve gone 3 consecutive seasons without winning a domestic trophy. Didn’t realise that was the case. Interesting observation from them, I must say. the last 15 years under the glazers have now completely undone all what SAF built up in the previous 15 before they showed up.we are roughly about the same as we where before he took over in 86(a sleeping giant with its glory days behind it,miles off the league and a domestic pot the best we can hope for). it’s a matter of time before other clubs overtake us revenue wise if these parasites stay around much longer draining the life out of the club.
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Post by bobbins, again for some reason on Jul 20, 2020 20:08:14 GMT
After yesterday’s defeat, ESPN have pointed out that this is the first time in 31 years that we’ve gone 3 consecutive seasons without winning a domestic trophy. Didn’t realise that was the case. Interesting observation from them, I must say. the last 15 years under the glazers have now completely undone all what SAF built up in the previous 15 before they showed up.we are roughly about the same as we where before he took over in 86(a sleeping giant with its glory days behind it,miles off the league and a domestic pot the best we can hope for). it’s a matter of time before other clubs overtake us revenue wise if these parasites stay around much longer draining the life out of the club. True. I was looking at my FB account earlier and it came up on my newsfeed on ESPN’s account - regarding 3 consecutive seasons without a domestic trophy. Even though we’re looking to get back in the CL, wouldn’t you think we’d have enough about us to win a domestic trophy within 3 seasons just past and including this one. As others have said on here nothing wrong with winning trophies. I don’t particularly like Paul Merson - but I was reading his piece on the Sky Sports site where he was saying that he was ‘flabbergasted’ with the team Ole picked and the approach he took to the game. He was saying Ole could be gone in a couple of seasons with no silverware to his name - and he had a brilliant opportunity to win the F.A. Cup but pissed it away. As you’re referring to the Glazer ownership compounds things but that’s a different thread.
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