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Post by caino on Feb 3, 2021 12:16:44 GMT
Great to see Shaw playing so well,just a shame it took £50mill+ being spent on another player to see him start to reach his potential,especially at a time when the club is struggling financially. And there was me thinking it was the managers job to improve players. Shaw is finally playing like we hoped he would , club finally have a decent backup on LB (as a big club should have) I really dont see what is your problem here. Also didnt Telles cost something like £13million ?? I think you'll find that with all the add on's the fee is in the region of £25mill + Wages,agents fees
so not 50m then ? total nonsense there is problems as we all know at the club, but its funny has competition in a place with solid rotation to prevent injuries improves performances so happy Shaw is finally finding his potential and turning into the player thought he would be. i thought he was done with us a couple seasons ago but once again ive been proved wrong. great to see us thwack a side as well dont care if they had a weakened side or they got someone sent off, that was a shocker. McTomminay isnt just one of the most improved players at the club but in the league. terrific stats for the midfielder this seaon. that finish was Kroos esc. keep playing that side as its the best balance we have. Exactly. I’m a big Donny fan but just looking at last night, one player was controlling the middle of the park, crunching into tackles and spraying the ball about. And he wasn’t from Holland. our squads have been built on players who give 7/10 every week but hes pushing his own boundaries this season. total nonstop action from him. if he was called Tominho he would be spoke about in a higher regard |
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Post by fergiegiveusawave on Feb 3, 2021 12:21:43 GMT
It's an extremely odd argument. Surely we all want strength in depth in every position? How can that be spun negatively?
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Post by kstandhand on Feb 3, 2021 12:45:07 GMT
Great to see Shaw playing so well,just a shame it took £50mill+ being spent on another player to see him start to reach his potential,especially at a time when the club is struggling financially. And there was me thinking it was the managers job to improve players. I think you'll find that with all the add on's the fee is in the region of £25mill + Wages,agents fees
so not 50m then ? total nonsense there is problems as we all know at the club, but its funny has competition in a place with solid rotation to prevent injuries improves performances Exactly. I’m a big Donny fan but just looking at last night, one player was controlling the middle of the park, crunching into tackles and spraying the ball about. And he wasn’t from Holland. our squads have been built on players who give 7/10 every week but hes pushing his own boundaries this season. total nonstop action from him. if he was called Tominho he would be spoke about in a higher regard When a club sign a player,they cost the entire package for numerous business reasons,the length of contract,wage & agents fees,it has a direct impact on the transfer. So not it's not wrong,give or take a few quid. |
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Post by kstandhand on Feb 3, 2021 13:02:32 GMT
It's an extremely odd argument. Surely we all want strength in depth in every position? How can that be spun negatively? It's not an argument,it's an opinion & view that differs to the one held be you. We all want strength in depth,you were crediting OGS for improving Shaw,you're opinion..thats fine but it's not entirely mine. Believe it or not I find the continual isn't OGS great posts that you make,as idiotic & stupid as you obviously find mine. I was merely pointing out there are two sides to every debate & that a very significant factor in his sudden up turn in form may & almost certainly has been affected by the signing of player that will ultimately cost the club £50mill ish. It's strange thing when a public forum based around all contributors having a common interest, allows some to respond to other contributors by calling them Cnuts because they hold a different opinion to them or decide to call someone a f**king idiot he because has enough respect to respond to someone by saying,I respect you're view but don't agree with you. Call me old fashioned but if you don't like differing opinions maybe you are looking in the wrong place. |
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Post by redcase on Feb 3, 2021 13:32:28 GMT
so happy Shaw is finally finding his potential and turning into the player thought he would be. i thought he was done with us a couple seasons ago but once again ive been proved wrong. great to see us thwack a side as well dont care if they had a weakened side or they got someone sent off, that was a shocker. McTomminay isnt just one of the most improved players at the club but in the league. terrific stats for the midfielder this seaon. that finish was Kroos esc. keep playing that side as its the best balance we have. Exactly. I’m a big Donny fan but just looking at last night, one player was controlling the middle of the park, crunching into tackles and spraying the ball about. And he wasn’t from Holland. Yeah but some of the people here whose name I won't be uttering seemed to call him McAverage just 2 weeks ago. Been saying for the past year that McT has been a blessing for this team. Skill players alone don't win you games we need the grafters and effort players as well to play a big role. McT plays for the shirt, can't have enough of those to be frank. |
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Post by RAZ on Feb 3, 2021 13:46:45 GMT
Exactly. I’m a big Donny fan but just looking at last night, one player was controlling the middle of the park, crunching into tackles and spraying the ball about. And he wasn’t from Holland. Yeah but some of the people here whose name I won't be uttering seemed to call him McAverage just 2 weeks ago. Been saying for the past year that McT has been a blessing for this team. Skill players alone don't win you games we need the grafters and effort players as well to play a big role. McT plays for the shirt, can't have enough of those to be frank. but dont you know, mcaverage is a representation of where the club has arrived, pure mediocrity. yes, he is exactly a reason for that. well that and also probably buying a left back that we needed for years, to come in and compete with shaw and make him a better player. whats good about that? doesnt make sense to have players competing. i`d rather have a depleted squad and complain about not having those options. or rather, we should have signed a cheap, inexperienced teenager so i can complain about that... oh and while i`m at it, let me also complain about brunos signing and why he is the only reason we have some good performances every now and then. because players like de bruyne, salah, hazard during his time at chelsea, henry, messi, ronaldo etc, they dont actually exist. thats not really what world class players do, carrying a team and taking responsibility and wondering why you`re being called an idiot and why your opinion is worth bollocks... |
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Post by Carbon on Feb 3, 2021 13:50:28 GMT
lol following the game Southampton have requested that Mike Dean and Lee Mason do not ref their games for the rest of the season
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Post by fergiegiveusawave on Feb 3, 2021 13:58:33 GMT
It's an extremely odd argument. Surely we all want strength in depth in every position? How can that be spun negatively? It's not an argument,it's an opinion & view that differs to the one held be you. 1) We all want strength in depth,you were crediting OGS for improving Shaw,you're opinion..thats fine but it's not entirely mine. Believe it or not I find the 2) continual isn't OGS great posts that you make,as idiotic & stupid as you obviously find mine. I was merely pointing out there are two sides to every debate & that a very significant factor in his sudden up turn in form may & almost certainly has been affected by the signing of player that will ultimately cost the club £50mill ish. 3) It's strange thing when a public forum based around all contributors having a common interest, allows some to respond to other contributors by calling them Cnuts because they hold a different opinion to them or decide to call someone a f**king idiot he because has enough respect to respond to someone by saying,I respect you're view but don't agree with you. 4) Call me old fashioned but if you don't like differing opinions maybe you are looking in the wrong place. 1) I happen to agree that signing of the new player has contributed to Shaw's form but also that not berating a young player constantly has also had an impact. I also hold the opinion that improving the quality of the squad, thus improving the form of individual players isn't a negative and is actually something that happens at most decent clubs. 2) Care to show me evidence of all my continual Ole is great posts? 3) Amusing seems I took a hiatus from this place last year because you called me a cunt, literally out of the blue, citing a disagreement which happened about a month earlier as your excuse and the mods/admins here seemingly did nothing about it. 4) Not old fashioned, just wrong. I'd argue if you don't like people who question the sense of your opinions, it's you who's in the wrong place. And a 5th point, how on earth you're not constantly called out on your wummery and troll behaviour is beyond me. It's clear as day. Lots of people disagree on here, I disagree with many but a select couple seem to go out of their way to just genuinely light the touchpaper with typically baffling or misplaced takes at questionable times. Would not be the least bit surprised if you or other are unmasked as scouse at some point. |
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Post by kstandhand on Feb 3, 2021 13:59:34 GMT
Yeah but some of the people here whose name I won't be uttering seemed to call him McAverage just 2 weeks ago. Been saying for the past year that McT has been a blessing for this team. Skill players alone don't win you games we need the grafters and effort players as well to play a big role. McT plays for the shirt, can't have enough of those to be frank. but dont you know, mcaverage is a representation of where the club has arrived, pure mediocrity. yes, he is exactly a reason for that. well that and also probably buying a left back that we needed for years, to come in and compete with shaw and make him a better player. whats good about that? doesnt make sense to have players competing. i`d rather have a depleted squad and complain about not having those options. or rather, we should have signed a cheap, inexperienced teenager so i can complain about that... oh and while i`m at it, let me also complain about brunos signing and why he is the only reason we have some good performances every now and then. because players like de bruyne, salah, hazard during his time at chelsea, henry, messi, ronaldo etc, they dont actually exist. thats not really what world class players do, carrying a team and taking responsibility and wondering why you`re being called an idiot and why your opinion is worth bollocks... My Dad always said there are more walking the streets than there are locked up & by fuck he is being proven right today  |
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Post by kstandhand on Feb 3, 2021 14:03:12 GMT
It's not an argument,it's an opinion & view that differs to the one held be you. 1) We all want strength in depth,you were crediting OGS for improving Shaw,you're opinion..thats fine but it's not entirely mine. Believe it or not I find the 2) continual isn't OGS great posts that you make,as idiotic & stupid as you obviously find mine. I was merely pointing out there are two sides to every debate & that a very significant factor in his sudden up turn in form may & almost certainly has been affected by the signing of player that will ultimately cost the club £50mill ish. 3) It's strange thing when a public forum based around all contributors having a common interest, allows some to respond to other contributors by calling them Cnuts because they hold a different opinion to them or decide to call someone a f**king idiot he because has enough respect to respond to someone by saying,I respect you're view but don't agree with you. 4) Call me old fashioned but if you don't like differing opinions maybe you are looking in the wrong place. 1) I happen to agree that signing of the new player has contributed to Shaw's form but also that not berating a young player constantly has also had an impact. I also hold the opinion that improving the quality of the squad, thus improving the form of individual players isn't a negative and is actually something that happens at most decent clubs. 2) Care to show me evidence of all my continual Ole is great posts? 3) Amusing seems I took a hiatus from this place last year because you called me a cunt, literally out of the blue, citing a disagreement which happened about a month earlier as your excuse and the mods/admins here seemingly did nothing about it. 4) Not old fashioned, just wrong. I'd argue if you don't like people who question the sense of your opinions, it's you who's in the wrong place. And a 5th point, how on earth you're not constantly called out on your wummery and troll behaviour is beyond me. It's clear as day. Lots of people disagree on here, I disagree with many but a select couple seem to go out of their way to just genuinely light the touchpaper with typically baffling or misplaced takes at questionable times. Would not be the least bit surprised if you or other are unmasked as scouse at some point. The only response to this that you are going to get,is that I used the term in response to being called that by you.The mods can confirm this to be true. |
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Post by fergiegiveusawave on Feb 3, 2021 14:04:12 GMT
but dont you know, mcaverage is a representation of where the club has arrived, pure mediocrity. yes, he is exactly a reason for that. well that and also probably buying a left back that we needed for years, to come in and compete with shaw and make him a better player. whats good about that? doesnt make sense to have players competing. i`d rather have a depleted squad and complain about not having those options. or rather, we should have signed a cheap, inexperienced teenager so i can complain about that... oh and while i`m at it, let me also complain about brunos signing and why he is the only reason we have some good performances every now and then. because players like de bruyne, salah, hazard during his time at chelsea, henry, messi, ronaldo etc, they dont actually exist. thats not really what world class players do, carrying a team and taking responsibility and wondering why you`re being called an idiot and why your opinion is worth bollocks... My Dad always said there are more walking the streets than there are locked up & by fuck he is being proven right today Definitely not troll or WUM behaviour. |
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Post by kstandhand on Feb 3, 2021 14:09:54 GMT
My Dad always said there are more walking the streets than there are locked up & by fuck he is being proven right today Definitely not troll or WUM behaviour. Just exactly what kind of response do you, Raz or anyone else think my response to another personal insult would be?? |
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Post by fergiegiveusawave on Feb 3, 2021 14:10:33 GMT
1) I happen to agree that signing of the new player has contributed to Shaw's form but also that not berating a young player constantly has also had an impact. I also hold the opinion that improving the quality of the squad, thus improving the form of individual players isn't a negative and is actually something that happens at most decent clubs. 2) Care to show me evidence of all my continual Ole is great posts? 3) Amusing seems I took a hiatus from this place last year because you called me a cunt, literally out of the blue, citing a disagreement which happened about a month earlier as your excuse and the mods/admins here seemingly did nothing about it. 4) Not old fashioned, just wrong. I'd argue if you don't like people who question the sense of your opinions, it's you who's in the wrong place. And a 5th point, how on earth you're not constantly called out on your wummery and troll behaviour is beyond me. It's clear as day. Lots of people disagree on here, I disagree with many but a select couple seem to go out of their way to just genuinely light the touchpaper with typically baffling or misplaced takes at questionable times. Would not be the least bit surprised if you or other are unmasked as scouse at some point. The only response to this that you are going to get,it that I used the term in response to being called that by you.The mods can confirm this to be true. A month later? Even a fucking week later that is just nonsense. You telling me that you saved it for x amount of time afterwards and thought "I'll throw it back at him when he least expects it."? Jesus, almost feel sorry for you. Also worth noting I used it (I shouldn't have) in the middle of a disagreement where there was shit being thrown back and forth at one another, not just randomly out of the blue. Fucking childish anyway. Can't be arsed fucking bickering with people on the internet anymore. Disagreements about United, heated or calm are fair enough but when it ends up with name calling it gets ridiculous, I've played my part in that in the past. Genuinely can't be arsed with it. I'm a grown ass man. But if I'm going to come back here and see you up to your old tricks I'm absolutely going to continue to call you out on it. |
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Post by kstandhand on Feb 3, 2021 14:13:52 GMT
The only response to this that you are going to get,it that I used the term in response to being called that by you.The mods can confirm this to be true. A month later? Even a fucking week later that is just nonsense. You telling me that you saved it for x amount of time afterwards and thought "I'll throw it back at him when he least expects it."? Jesus, almost feel sorry for you. Also worth noting I used it (I shouldn't have) in the middle of a disagreement where there was shit being thrown back and forth at one another, not just randomly out of the blue. Fucking childish anyway. Can't be arsed fucking bickering with people on the internet anymore. Disagreements about United, heated or calm are fair enough but when it ends up with name calling it gets ridiculous, I've played my part in that in the past. Genuinely can't be arsed with it. I'm a grown ass man. But if I'm going to come back here and see you up to your old tricks I'm absolutely going to continue to call you out on it. Like wise, I enjoy the diverse & mostly intelligent opinions offered by many on here but when you are spouting crap again.i'll be there banging that that drum! |
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Post by fergiegiveusawave on Feb 3, 2021 14:18:16 GMT
A month later? Even a fucking week later that is just nonsense. You telling me that you saved it for x amount of time afterwards and thought "I'll throw it back at him when he least expects it."? Jesus, almost feel sorry for you. Also worth noting I used it (I shouldn't have) in the middle of a disagreement where there was shit being thrown back and forth at one another, not just randomly out of the blue. Fucking childish anyway. Can't be arsed fucking bickering with people on the internet anymore. Disagreements about United, heated or calm are fair enough but when it ends up with name calling it gets ridiculous, I've played my part in that in the past. Genuinely can't be arsed with it. I'm a grown ass man. But if I'm going to come back here and see you up to your old tricks I'm absolutely going to continue to call you out on it. Like wise, I enjoy the diverse & mostly intelligent opinions offered by many on here but when you are spouting crap again.i'll be there banging that that drum! Can't leave off can you? Wumming til the end. |
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