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Post by redcase on Feb 3, 2022 12:06:04 GMT
When we inevitably appoint Pochettino it officially signals the end of us as an elite club. Moyes had the coat tails of Fergie, van Gaal and Jose were genuie best in the world names, and Ole at least had the legendary player in our most successful period status. We can ignore interims. Pochettino, in real terms, is a nobody. No real trophies, no consistent track record of actual success anywhere. All hype and zero substance when it counts. We're finished. I wouldn't agree with that negativity on Pochettino, but don't want to get into that debate again! Anyway I don't think that's a foregone conclusion If Erik ten Hag forces their hand by bloody winning the CL or getting to the final then there is a huge swell of support for him! I would personally prefer an aggressive move for Conte, who could easily be brought in from Spurs. The absolute shite that these clowns seem to swallow about Conte not being a good fit for us makes me laugh. The real fact is they are afraid to bring in somebody like that who speaks their mind When has hiring a winner ever motivated the owners? Prime example - snubbed Conte in favor of Rangnick. Winners do not fit the desired description of managerial hires at this club. Comfortable, easygoing, also-ran, has-been, spineless, boot-licker etc. These are the keywords. |
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Post by mightyez on Feb 3, 2022 13:06:56 GMT
If I could get one in, Enrique all day long!
Poch has been in the league etc and is more likely to concede working with restrictions
Progressive and current would be Ten Haag but if we do not give him all he wants/needs then he might be able to carry his success.
Good luck to whoever is making this decision.
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Post by GeniusCantona on Feb 3, 2022 13:51:55 GMT
If I could get one in, Enrique all day long! Poch has been in the league etc and is more likely to concede working with restrictions Progressive and current would be Ten Haag but if we do not give him all he wants/needs then he might be able to carry his success. Good luck to whoever is making this decision. Only issue with Enrique is the World Cup, but if Rangnick stays on a bit longer we can make it work. Rangnick can line up the targets and get Enrique to sign off on them. Enrique has more of the big club experience we need and handled the pressure of taking over for Pep. Who the fuck am I kidding the club isn’t this smart. |
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Post by johnboy14 on Feb 3, 2022 14:51:06 GMT
If I could get one in, Enrique all day long! Poch has been in the league etc and is more likely to concede working with restrictions Progressive and current would be Ten Haag but if we do not give him all he wants/needs then he might be able to carry his success. Good luck to whoever is making this decision. Ten Haag wouldn't last a crack here unless he has the backing to rebuild everything. Ajax is a harmonious club in comparison to united |
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Post by Chris on Feb 3, 2022 15:03:54 GMT
If I could get one in, Enrique all day long! Poch has been in the league etc and is more likely to concede working with restrictions Progressive and current would be Ten Haag but if we do not give him all he wants/needs then he might be able to carry his success. Good luck to whoever is making this decision. Ten Haag wouldn't last a crack here unless he has the backing to rebuild everything. Ajax is a harmonious club in comparison to united The dream team of ten Hag, Edwin and Overmars definitely has the potential of giving me a long lasting erection. |
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Post by mightyez on Feb 3, 2022 15:17:43 GMT
If I could get one in, Enrique all day long! Poch has been in the league etc and is more likely to concede working with restrictions Progressive and current would be Ten Haag but if we do not give him all he wants/needs then he might be able to carry his success. Good luck to whoever is making this decision. Only issue with Enrique is the World Cup, but if Rangnick stays on a bit longer we can make it work. Rangnick can line up the targets and get Enrique to sign off on them. Enrique has more of the big club experience we need and handled the pressure of taking over for Pep. Who the fuck am I kidding the club isn’t this smart. Didn't even think of this but as you said it's far too smart. Enrique from what I have seen can mix it up with the way he sets up to play. Hate to say it but If i am city, i'd be tapping him up now to replace Pep, all eggs in that basket, give him what he wants as he will come in and maintain the standard. |
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Post by johnboy14 on Feb 3, 2022 16:36:20 GMT
Ten Haag wouldn't last a crack here unless he has the backing to rebuild everything. Ajax is a harmonious club in comparison to united The dream team of ten Hag, Edwin and Overmars definitely has the potential of giving me a long lasting erection. Can't say I'm as excited 🤣 I thought this was the reason we signed Ralf? |
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Post by Kojak on Feb 3, 2022 17:22:17 GMT
Ten Haag wouldn't last a crack here unless he has the backing to rebuild everything. Ajax is a harmonious club in comparison to united The dream team of ten Hag, Edwin and Overmars definitely has the potential of giving me a long lasting erection. Best get a shipment of blue pills ordered sharpish mate for when we appoint Poch with Darren Fletcher as assistant in the summer. |
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Post by redcase on Feb 3, 2022 17:45:08 GMT
The dream team of ten Hag, Edwin and Overmars definitely has the potential of giving me a long lasting erection. Best get a shipment of blue pills ordered sharpish mate for when we appoint Poch with Darren Fletcher as assistant in the summer. I assumed you're making a Matrix reference before it hit me like a ton of bricks 🤣 |
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Post by Stew on Feb 4, 2022 10:29:21 GMT
Also, regardless of the manager, why haven’t a few of these guys been signed to a pre- contract?
Sule
Kamara
Dybala
Kessie
Brozovic
Every single one of those players starts immediately for our team. Sule would be a huge upgrade on Maguire or Lindelof and the 3 holding mids start too. Dybala is obviously a huge talent.
Where is the forward planning?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2022 11:26:49 GMT
Also, regardless of the manager, why haven’t a few of these guys been signed to a pre- contract? Sule Kamara Dybala Kessie Brozovic Every single one of those players starts immediately for our team. Sule would be a huge upgrade on Maguire or Lindelof and the 3 holding mids start too. Dybala is obviously a huge talent. Where is the forward planning? Dybala, seriously? Dybala refused us a couple of years ago in exchange for Lukaku and he's a worse player now. Besides, we have Bruno in his position, so he wouldn't start. Forward planning would have been to sign Vlahovic, who is a better player in a position we need, but I guess he really wanted to go to Juve and at that time we still had Greenwood. |
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Post by Stew on Feb 4, 2022 11:35:12 GMT
Also, regardless of the manager, why haven’t a few of these guys been signed to a pre- contract? Sule Kamara Dybala Kessie Brozovic Every single one of those players starts immediately for our team. Sule would be a huge upgrade on Maguire or Lindelof and the 3 holding mids start too. Dybala is obviously a huge talent. Where is the forward planning? Dybala, seriously? Dybala refused us a couple of years ago in exchange for Lukaku and he's a worse player now. Besides, we have Bruno in his position, so he wouldn't start. Forward planning would have been to sign Vlahovic, who is a better player in a position we need, but I guess he really wanted to go to Juve and at that time we still had Greenwood. That’s your take from that post? Seriously? |
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Post by Tatty on Feb 4, 2022 11:49:29 GMT
Dybala, seriously? Dybala refused us a couple of years ago in exchange for Lukaku and he's a worse player now. Besides, we have Bruno in his position, so he wouldn't start. Forward planning would have been to sign Vlahovic, who is a better player in a position we need, but I guess he really wanted to go to Juve and at that time we still had Greenwood. That’s your take from that post? Seriously? Some would say the take was bobbins... |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2022 11:07:42 GMT
Dybala, seriously? Dybala refused us a couple of years ago in exchange for Lukaku and he's a worse player now. Besides, we have Bruno in his position, so he wouldn't start. Forward planning would have been to sign Vlahovic, who is a better player in a position we need, but I guess he really wanted to go to Juve and at that time we still had Greenwood. That’s your take from that post? Seriously? I don't know if they have forward planning. I suppose there is some, but we will certainly find out in the summer. But forward planning is not signing a few flavour of the month players or somebody because you can get them on the cheap. Anyway, signing players on a "free" isn't that cheap either, because they can demand huge wages and a signing-on fee. And then you end up in a situation where a new manager comes in, they don't want them and you can't get rid of them. You know, just like now. Or, a prime example, Ramsey. Besides, how many players that have contracts expiring in 5 months have arleady signed somewhere else. The number must be really close to zero. So maybe you identify the players you really want, and you know they will only be available in the summer, so you wait until then and don't sign somebody you don't want meanwhile, but hope that McTominay can fill in adequately, as you're realistically not winning the CL anyway. So if that is the forward planning, such behaviour is a sign that they in fact are planning forward and not just panicking again. I don't know if they are capable of such planning now, but I can't rule it out based on not signing anybody this window. |
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Post by Stew on Feb 5, 2022 11:24:19 GMT
That’s your take from that post? Seriously? I don't know if they have forward planning. I suppose there is some, but we will certainly find out in the summer. But forward planning is not signing a few flavour of the month players or somebody because you can get them on the cheap. Anyway, signing players on a "free" isn't that cheap either, because they can demand huge wages and a signing-on fee. And then you end up in a situation where a new manager comes in, they don't want them and you can't get rid of them. You know, just like now. Or, a prime example, Ramsey. Besides, how many players that have contracts expiring in 5 months have arleady signed somewhere else. The number must be really close to zero. So maybe you identify the players you really want, and you know they will only be available in the summer, so you wait until then and don't sign somebody you don't want meanwhile, but hope that McTominay can fill in adequately, as you're realistically not winning the CL anyway. So if that is the forward planning, such behaviour is a sign that they in fact are planning forward and not just panicking again. I don't know if they are capable of such planning now, but I can't rule it out based on not signing anybody this window. Never mind this window. Has there been anything over the last 6 years to suggest any sort of plan? There are good players on that list, that are free. They’re not flavours of the month, bar maybe Dybala. But what’s going to happen is we’ll piss about trying to get a new manager in, which will no doubt take an age. Then with our options in market dwindling, we’ll shell out 100 million for that plodder Rice. It’s inevitable. |
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