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Post by Paul on Nov 11, 2022 17:41:03 GMT
Gotta love TH's attitude. He doesn't take shit which is what we've been needing and wanting to see for years. I do like Donny but he's a passenger in this squad. He's just floating around like a spare part. Yeah agree. Worst thing with Donny is that he has been given like 4 games to show something and he has looked pathetic in all of them. Surely he see’s what the papers are saying, surely that motivates him? Hoping the managers words do that. He's had injuries but he's had plenty of football now to show glimpses of the player he was at Ajax. He's failed to do that up to now. Would like to see him up his game enough but I just don't see it at this point.
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Post by Stretty on Nov 11, 2022 18:22:44 GMT
Yeah agree. Worst thing with Donny is that he has been given like 4 games to show something and he has looked pathetic in all of them. Surely he see’s what the papers are saying, surely that motivates him? Hoping the managers words do that. He's had injuries but he's had plenty of football now to show glimpses of the player he was at Ajax. He's failed to do that up to now. Would like to see him up his game enough but I just don't see it at this point. I think we are shuffling the deck chairs on the titanic with DVB. At the end of the day he’s just not good enough(never has been and never will be).
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Post by Karma on Nov 11, 2022 21:02:53 GMT
Hoping the managers words do that. He's had injuries but he's had plenty of football now to show glimpses of the player he was at Ajax. He's failed to do that up to now. Would like to see him up his game enough but I just don't see it at this point. I think we are shuffling the deck chairs on the titanic with DVB. At the end of the day he’s just not good enough(never has been and never will be). He was clearly a panic buy when the club wouldn’t sanction more overpriced British dross. 😇
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Post by caino on Nov 11, 2022 21:59:39 GMT
VDB has been one of the biggest disappointments in the massive list of transfer disappointments.
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Post by Stretty on Nov 12, 2022 6:54:01 GMT
VDB has been one of the biggest disappointments in the massive list of transfer disappointments. I didn’t realise we’d paid 37.5 million for him. file him with Maguire,AWB,Sancho and that’s over 250 million that’s been wasted by our previous manager(I know no manager gets every transfer right but that’s a high failure rate).
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Post by caino on Nov 12, 2022 9:15:49 GMT
If Ten Hag gets rid of AWB, Maguire, VDB and Fred he will be on track of having a statue built
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Post by Bestie on Nov 12, 2022 9:16:37 GMT
Hoping the managers words do that. He's had injuries but he's had plenty of football now to show glimpses of the player he was at Ajax. He's failed to do that up to now. Would like to see him up his game enough but I just don't see it at this point. I think we are shuffling the deck chairs on the titanic with DVB. At the end of the day he’s just not good enough(never has been and never will be). Can't say that. He hasn't had seven-odd years to prove himself. I think he needs at least four more chances.
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Post by viking22 on Nov 12, 2022 12:00:41 GMT
“I don’t think the loan makes sense," Ten Hag said. "It’s either he fights and proves himself in this environment or he goes, but for me, there is still a way for him. But it’s not going to be easy for him because the competition there is really strong."
Erik seems to have ruled out a loan which I think is short sighted. Every time he has played for us this season it has been like playing with 10 men. I'd much rather shift him on loan to a Spanish club where he might do better and allow us to get some kind of transfer fee for him in the summer. He's flopped under four managers in the Premier League.
We cannot afford to carry any passengers this season.
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Post by Reduntildeath on Nov 12, 2022 12:21:07 GMT
Watching him play is extremely uncomfortable, his startled, rabbit-in-the-headlights facial, expressions is painful to watch, it’s also apparent that he knows he’s on trial. Ole should carry an awful lot of responsibility for this. That ETH played him whilst they were both at Ajax, and now can’t get a tune out of him must be disappointing to say the least!
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Post by Bestie on Nov 12, 2022 12:26:39 GMT
Watching him play is extremely uncomfortable, his startled, rabbit-in-the-headlights facial, expressions is painful to watch, it’s also apparent that he knows he’s on trial. Ole should carry an awful lot of responsibility for this. That ETH played him whilst they were both at Ajax, and now can’t get a tune out of him must be disappointing to say the least! It must be impossible for a young player to have had his career so disgracefully stunted and know every rare appearance will be analysed to the nth degree. It's no way to rebuild confidence. I cannot think of one decent run in the side van de Beek has had since we signed him. Has he ever started five consecutive games for us?
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Post by ratbag on Nov 12, 2022 13:28:55 GMT
Watching him play is extremely uncomfortable, his startled, rabbit-in-the-headlights facial, expressions is painful to watch, it’s also apparent that he knows he’s on trial. Ole should carry an awful lot of responsibility for this. That ETH played him whilst they were both at Ajax, and now can’t get a tune out of him must be disappointing to say the least! It must be impossible for a young player to have had his career so disgracefully stunted and know every rare appearance will be analysed to the nth degree. It's no way to rebuild confidence. I cannot think of one decent run in the side van de Beek has had since we signed him. Has he ever started five consecutive games for us? I was having exactly the same thought this mo. No wonder he looks nervous most of the time. A goal would help him enormously…
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Post by mightyez on Nov 12, 2022 13:30:01 GMT
Watching him play is extremely uncomfortable, his startled, rabbit-in-the-headlights facial, expressions is painful to watch, it’s also apparent that he knows he’s on trial. Ole should carry an awful lot of responsibility for this. That ETH played him whilst they were both at Ajax, and now can’t get a tune out of him must be disappointing to say the least! It must be impossible for a young player to have had his career so disgracefully stunted and know every rare appearance will be analysed to the nth degree. It's no way to rebuild confidence. I cannot think of one decent run in the side van de Beek has had since we signed him. Has he ever started five consecutive games for us? He has had 3 in a row and looked rather bad. Just don’t see the fit. I thought Ole was mad not giving him games, Carrick, Rangnick, but I can see why. In Italy he’d bag goals. He has to offer more than movement. His , passing, intensity and game influence all are not at the required level
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Post by Paul on Nov 12, 2022 13:42:08 GMT
It must be impossible for a young player to have had his career so disgracefully stunted and know every rare appearance will be analysed to the nth degree. It's no way to rebuild confidence. I cannot think of one decent run in the side van de Beek has had since we signed him. Has he ever started five consecutive games for us? He has had 3 in a row and looked rather bad. Just don’t see the fit. I thought Ole was mad not giving him games, Carrick, Rangnick, but I can see why. In Italy he’d bag goals. He has to offer more than movement. His , passing, intensity and game influence all are not at the required level He would start 5 if he wasn't so shit in the first 4 😏.
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Post by viking22 on Nov 12, 2022 20:09:51 GMT
Not really that sympathetic. Kids coming through like Garnacho need to play well every minute they get to have a hope of more game time. Donny has had 57 appearances. Even if you allow for the fact that a lot of them were cameos he has still failed on every occasion to make any kind of positive impression.
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Post by Paul on Nov 12, 2022 20:41:30 GMT
Not really that sympathetic. Kids coming through like Garnacho need to play well every minute they get to have a hope of more game time. Donny has had 57 appearances. Even if you allow for the fact that a lot of them were cameos he has still failed on every occasion to make any kind of positive impression. To be fair in those 57 appearances he was class against Luton Town.
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