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Post by alwaysUnited on Oct 10, 2022 8:51:49 GMT
Shaw was outstanding last night. When he plays like that, he's one of the best left-backs around. Hopefully he realises he's got some serious competition there now in Malacia and kicks on from this point in, the manager dropping him certainly looks to have done the business judging by yesterday. Last time he played so well was when we signed Alex Telles. Its almost as if having genuine competition and not being guaranteed starter every time makes them work harder on their game. |
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Post by caino on Oct 10, 2022 9:27:16 GMT
Antony bedding in and getting used to the team league and he’s on 3 in 3 for the PL. that was a great goal too. Brilliant touch and a superb finish. Compare that to likes of Elanga, James and usually Rashford, they miss that chance the majority of the time.
Shaw looks as if the rest of not playing constantly and proper competition has done him the world of good.
Newcastle are there for the taking as they won’t just sit back and defend. West Ham aren’t up to much this year really although are improving. Chelsea will be interesting but no reason why we can’t win all 3 or 2 wins and a draw would be good going
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Post by mightyez on Oct 10, 2022 9:35:07 GMT
Don't be fooled by Lindelof the guy is simply not good enough for this league and club.
Any opportunity to sell should be explored.
Decent game yesterday but for the life of me why in all these years has he not toughened up? Came in and showed some promise and then we gave him a new contract because Barca were supposedly sniffing around
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Post by DedRevil on Oct 10, 2022 9:46:38 GMT
Don't be fooled by Lindelof the guy is simply not good enough for this league and club. Any opportunity to sell should be explored. Decent game yesterday but for the life of me why in all these years has he not toughened up? Came in and showed some promise and then we gave him a new contract because Barca were supposedly sniffing around Almost forgot he was playing. That's a good sign. rather him than our captain as the backup CB |
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Post by mightyez on Oct 10, 2022 9:54:58 GMT
Don't be fooled by Lindelof the guy is simply not good enough for this league and club. Any opportunity to sell should be explored. Decent game yesterday but for the life of me why in all these years has he not toughened up? Came in and showed some promise and then we gave him a new contract because Barca were supposedly sniffing around Almost forgot he was playing. That's a good sign. rather him than our captain as the backup CB Agree but ultimately we need to think bigger especially as I just can't see Varane being one that can battle for a full season. |
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Post by DedRevil on Oct 10, 2022 9:57:07 GMT
Almost forgot he was playing. That's a good sign. rather him than our captain as the backup CB Agree but ultimately we need to think bigger especially as I just can't see Varane being one that can battle for a full season. We do, but we won't. |
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Post by harvindhillon on Oct 10, 2022 10:00:20 GMT
I think the comments around Casemiro and the physicality of the EPL are like the default comments for everyone coming into the league. Same things were being said about Haaland. Long gone are the days when the Premier League was about strong players pushing and shoving players off the ball. It's very technical now, just look at City, sure they have physical players but they are very technical players not just brutes.
Casemiro looked really good yesterday and I believe that's the only reason why Lindelof looked good himself, there was not much for him to deal with. Sure he made a mistake or two and I think that will still be there but he recovers so fast. Miles ahead of anyone else we got.
Need to get a run going now with him in the side, the balance he brings to the team allows the rest to play.
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Post by viking22 on Oct 10, 2022 10:21:23 GMT
Lindelof reads the game well and can pass the ball. It is the pace and physicality of the Premier League he often struggles with. He formed a decent partnership under Jose with Bailly and if Varane continues to struggle with injuries he might be able to do so with Martinez. But of course there will be tougher tests than Everton. He is also a lot more coachable than Maguire so will benefit from clear instructions and good coaching the same way he did under Jose. Of course long term we need an upgrade but I think he can be a useful squad player this season so long as we never ever play him alongside Maguire.
Casemiro was a bit sloppy but you can see the quality and he should quickly adapt to the Premier League and massively upgrade our midfield.
Great for Ronaldo to get his 700th goal and provide the matchwinner. It is easy to write him off because of his age but I think his struggles this season have been mental rather than physical. With Martial seemingly unable to stay fit and Rashford looking a much better option than Sancho on the left he will get more game time and I am sure he will take advantage.
Antony looks like he can replace the goals that Mason used to score from the right side. Of course he contributed to the goal we conceded and neglected his defensive duties against City so I can see him being exciting and frustrating but never boring!
I am a little worried about Bruno. Clearly Ole ball suited him very well. But now he seems to have been struck by the curse of other talented number 10s such as Kagaya and Mkhi. I think there would be something to be said for bringing in another CM such as Tielemans and giving Eriksen some opportunities as a CAM especially against teams where we won't get much play on the counter.
All in all we made a bit of a meal of it but managed to win which is the important thing. The World Cup break might not be such a bad thing. Ole had a rough start to the 19/20 season but then after the COVID lockdown went on a good run. Of course signing Bruno helped a lot. But hopefully we will do some smart business in January after Erik has had the winter to assess our needs properly.
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Post by Bestie on Oct 10, 2022 10:27:06 GMT
Almost forgot he was playing. That's a good sign. rather him than our captain as the backup CB Agree but ultimately we need to think bigger especially as I just can't see Varane being one that can battle for a full season. One step at a time. Maguire is out of the side and hopefully on his way out of the club in January. Take the progress where we can get it. Ten Hag is basically starting with a 90 second stop-grid penalty after the summer (partially his own making). The most impressive 'non-obvious we won and gritted through a tough Everton spell' thing for me yesterday was the clear shape. It was 4-2-3-1 and everyone knew where they were supposed to be. Yes there was a bit of fluidity amongst the front four which you want, but when we lost the ball everyone got back into shape almost immediately. There was a level of genuine organisation we haven't seen since Mourinho. It was the first time I have seen that under ten Hag. |
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Post by Paul on Oct 10, 2022 10:28:37 GMT
Lindelof is the best of a bad bunch as far as back ups go. He's also a better player when not partnered with Maguire (not difficult I know) and I'd much rather him in the side than Maguire.
To his credit he actually had a decent game last night so credit where its due. We'll need to see more of that as the season goes as I do feel he'll get a good number of games.
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Post by mightyez on Oct 10, 2022 10:39:09 GMT
Let's be clear here, no one is arguing about Lindelöf being better than Maguire etc etc but that does not deflect from the fact the guy is still not the level of what we need.
There is work to be done in that area and i am sure the manager knows it. A safe assumption is that Martinez is part 1 of the plan for the CB position.
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Post by DedRevil on Oct 10, 2022 10:45:16 GMT
Let's be clear here, no one is arguing about Lindelöf being better than Maguire etc etc but that does not deflect from the fact the guy is still not the level of what we need. There is work to be done in that area and i am sure the manager knows it. A safe assumption is that Martinez is part 1 of the plan for the CB position. We've all known it for ages |
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Post by Paul on Oct 10, 2022 10:48:58 GMT
Let's be clear here, no one is arguing about Lindelöf being better than Maguire etc etc but that does not deflect from the fact the guy is still not the level of what we need. There is work to be done in that area and i am sure the manager knows it. A safe assumption is that Martinez is part 1 of the plan for the CB position. Don't think you'll see many disagree but we've got no other solution until January at the earliest and I don't see another CB coming in then either. So need to make do with what we have until something can be done. |
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Post by viking22 on Oct 10, 2022 11:08:48 GMT
Priorities in the upcoming windows are a RB, a CM and a CF. But if Varane continues to struggle with injuries this season we have a problem. We aren't going to raise much money selling Maguire, Lindelof or Bailly. So probably our best shot is to try and find a promising teenage CB who can be had for around £15-£20M.
It is a vicious circle really. We struggle to upgrade positions because the incumbents have little resale value mostly because they are crap but also because they are on high wages and the Glazers are reluctant to make up the differential.
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Post by safariRed on Oct 10, 2022 11:57:48 GMT
We need a lot time to get it right, but as long as we win games during that period I can live with it.
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