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Post by alt on Oct 25, 2023 15:14:22 GMT
Like I said take out the goals and watch his game. We all know about his game, he is simply in the team because of the 3 goals and the fact they bailed us out, manager should then reward him by benching? What do you think that does to the fragile minds in the dressing room? Also get ETH out and who comes in? Klopp? Pep? Carlo? None of them touch us I get what you're saying about McTominay, but scrappy goals aside, he's been fucking dreadful, as have our performances. We may have managed to scrape 3 wins against teams we should be dominating, but it's not maintainable and we'll either lose to someone shit or get smashed by a top side soon enough. |
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Post by alt on Oct 25, 2023 15:32:17 GMT
A win's a win but overall, it was another diabolical performance against a very average side. How the fuck does a team like Copenhagen come to OT and make us look so bad?
It's staggering how EtH has had 18 months in this job now, and it's as if he took over from Ole last week. The style of play is still as bad as ever, we're wank to watch, and we've now got to put up with Antony playing week in week out.
The more I watch, the more I cannot fathom what he's trying to implement. There are just no signs of any sort of system. Coaches who are supposedly far less superior have been able to implement systems and styles so much quicker.
Fuck knows where we go from here. I've always supported EtH, but from what we've seen since the start of this season, I really struggle to see how he has a long-term future here.
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Post by Stretty on Oct 25, 2023 16:19:06 GMT
A win's a win but overall, it was another diabolical performance against a very average side. How the fuck does a team like Copenhagen come to OT and make us look so bad?It's staggering how EtH has had 18 months in this job now, and it's as if he took over from Ole last week. The style of play is still as bad as ever, we're wank to watch, and we've now got to put up with Antony playing week in week out. The more I watch, the more I cannot fathom what he's trying to implement. There are just no signs of any sort of system. Coaches who are supposedly far less superior have been able to implement systems and styles so much quicker. Fuck knows where we go from here. I've always supported EtH, but from what we've seen since the start of this season, I really struggle to see how he has a long-term future here. I remember the days when we would just brush teams like those aside usually scoring 2 or 3 within 30 minutes. last night was dogshit |
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Post by Kojak on Oct 25, 2023 17:51:00 GMT
Was a really weird atmosphere in the ground last night. Understandably.
Won the game, couldn’t give a shit about anything else. End was exciting. Try to avoid humiliation against City now.
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Post by Karma on Oct 25, 2023 17:52:09 GMT
It’s almost like he’s adopted a system to fit players in rather than players to fit a system .
That’s only going to end one way.
Certainly this season anyway .
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Post by mightyez on Oct 25, 2023 18:11:08 GMT
Once again get rid of the manager and get who?
if we have seen this pattern of players doing well one season and then doing nothing after, I'd be more inclined to think the issue might not really be the manager.
On MCT, the manager wanted him out, clubs agreed a deal but player turned it down. He started the season on the bench, he has scored 3 goals to bail us out, we don't score goals at all, surely logic dictates you play him until he has an absolute stinker.
We aren't playing him for his all round game, he is playing based on the goals/wins. Drop him now and you get a real situation in that dressing room.
I am massively confused as to why people aren't seeing reason.
We all know we are playing crap but let's not add fuel to the fire that is currently burning.
Wider picture, casemiro drop off, injuries to key defenders, the failed Antony experiment, Rashford, how to get Mount in that team and firing, these are bigger issues for me than MCT and Harry Maguire who by the way is deservedly starting ahead of Evans and Lindelof.
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Post by unitedsotex on Oct 25, 2023 18:36:29 GMT
Once again get rid of the manager and get who? if we have seen this pattern of players doing well one season and then doing nothing after, I'd be more inclined to think the issue might not really be the manager. On MCT, the manager wanted him out, clubs agreed a deal but player turned it down. He started the season on the bench, he has scored 3 goals to bail us out, we don't score goals at all, surely logic dictates you play him until he has an absolute stinker. We aren't playing him for his all round game, he is playing based on the goals/wins. Drop him now and you get a real situation in that dressing room. I am massively confused as to why people aren't seeing reason. We all know we are playing crap but let's not add fuel to the fire that is currently burning. Wider picture, casemiro drop off, injuries to key defenders, the failed Antony experiment, Rashford, how to get Mount in that team and firing, these are bigger issues for me than MCT and Harry Maguire who by the way is deservedly starting ahead of Evans and Lindelof. News cycles and casual fans are broken records.... they have no real opinion that makes actual sense. Their usual go to when a team is under performing is firing the manager like that is the end all be all to fixing a teams problem. |
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Post by johnboy14 on Oct 25, 2023 18:49:15 GMT
Once again get rid of the manager and get who? if we have seen this pattern of players doing well one season and then doing nothing after, I'd be more inclined to think the issue might not really be the manager. On MCT, the manager wanted him out, clubs agreed a deal but player turned it down. He started the season on the bench, he has scored 3 goals to bail us out, we don't score goals at all, surely logic dictates you play him until he has an absolute stinker. We aren't playing him for his all round game, he is playing based on the goals/wins. Drop him now and you get a real situation in that dressing room. I am massively confused as to why people aren't seeing reason. We all know we are playing crap but let's not add fuel to the fire that is currently burning. Wider picture, casemiro drop off, injuries to key defenders, the failed Antony experiment, Rashford, how to get Mount in that team and firing, these are bigger issues for me than MCT and Harry Maguire who by the way is deservedly starting ahead of Evans and Lindelof. This is how I feel. For example everyone is rightly heaping praise on Eddie Howe but I'm 100% certain he'd struggle if not more than Ten Hag at this club. Structurally this club is a complete mess. |
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Post by alt on Oct 25, 2023 18:51:27 GMT
Once again get rid of the manager and get who? if we have seen this pattern of players doing well one season and then doing nothing after, I'd be more inclined to think the issue might not really be the manager. On MCT, the manager wanted him out, clubs agreed a deal but player turned it down. He started the season on the bench, he has scored 3 goals to bail us out, we don't score goals at all, surely logic dictates you play him until he has an absolute stinker. We aren't playing him for his all round game, he is playing based on the goals/wins. Drop him now and you get a real situation in that dressing room. I am massively confused as to why people aren't seeing reason. We all know we are playing crap but let's not add fuel to the fire that is currently burning. Wider picture, casemiro drop off, injuries to key defenders, the failed Antony experiment, Rashford, how to get Mount in that team and firing, these are bigger issues for me than MCT and Harry Maguire who by the way is deservedly starting ahead of Evans and Lindelof. Someone who can get a tune out of a squad that’s cost near a billion pounds? Postecoglou has been in the job less than 5 months and you can already see a clear and consistent way of them playing. |
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Post by alt on Oct 25, 2023 18:57:46 GMT
Once again get rid of the manager and get who? if we have seen this pattern of players doing well one season and then doing nothing after, I'd be more inclined to think the issue might not really be the manager. On MCT, the manager wanted him out, clubs agreed a deal but player turned it down. He started the season on the bench, he has scored 3 goals to bail us out, we don't score goals at all, surely logic dictates you play him until he has an absolute stinker. We aren't playing him for his all round game, he is playing based on the goals/wins. Drop him now and you get a real situation in that dressing room. I am massively confused as to why people aren't seeing reason. We all know we are playing crap but let's not add fuel to the fire that is currently burning. Wider picture, casemiro drop off, injuries to key defenders, the failed Antony experiment, Rashford, how to get Mount in that team and firing, these are bigger issues for me than MCT and Harry Maguire who by the way is deservedly starting ahead of Evans and Lindelof. This is how I feel. For example everyone is rightly heaping praise on Eddie Howe but I'm 100% certain he'd struggle if not more than Ten Hag at this club. Structurally this club is a complete mess. Whilst I don’t disagree about the structure, please enlighten me with what could have been done differently in the 18 months he’s had that would have allowed him to implement his own system and style and we wouldn’t be playing like a bunch of misfits each week? |
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Post by mightyez on Oct 25, 2023 19:09:11 GMT
Once again get rid of the manager and get who? if we have seen this pattern of players doing well one season and then doing nothing after, I'd be more inclined to think the issue might not really be the manager. On MCT, the manager wanted him out, clubs agreed a deal but player turned it down. He started the season on the bench, he has scored 3 goals to bail us out, we don't score goals at all, surely logic dictates you play him until he has an absolute stinker. We aren't playing him for his all round game, he is playing based on the goals/wins. Drop him now and you get a real situation in that dressing room. I am massively confused as to why people aren't seeing reason. We all know we are playing crap but let's not add fuel to the fire that is currently burning. Wider picture, casemiro drop off, injuries to key defenders, the failed Antony experiment, Rashford, how to get Mount in that team and firing, these are bigger issues for me than MCT and Harry Maguire who by the way is deservedly starting ahead of Evans and Lindelof. Someone who can get a tune out of a squad that’s cost near a billion pounds? Postecoglou has been in the job less than 5 months and you can already see a clear and consistent way of them playing. 5 months, let’s see in the next 13 months what he is doing. No doubt thus far he has that team looking good but I can’t see him being the answer to our issues |
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Post by Karma on Oct 25, 2023 19:31:55 GMT
Someone who can get a tune out of a squad that’s cost near a billion pounds? Postecoglou has been in the job less than 5 months and you can already see a clear and consistent way of them playing. 5 months, let’s see in the next 13 months what he is doing. No doubt thus far he has that team looking good but I can’t see him being the answer to our issues If he doesn’t get CL football for next season he’ll be done next Spring. |
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Post by Kojak on Oct 25, 2023 19:51:50 GMT
I think once again we are underestimating the effect the metaphorical black cloud is having on our club.
Newcastle have been on the crest of a wave since their high-street tyrant fucked off.
Spurs are looking good under the new manager, but Ten Hag was manager of the month twice last season. I honestly think you’d be seeing something different if the sale had gone through. There’s such a weight on the club.
I don’t think the manager has covered himself in glory with the way he has spent the funds that are available to him. But he was one of the most sought after coaches in world football when we got him. Manager of the month for September and March last season.
This club is an absolute state. Someone please suggest who they would hire if we sacked this manager?
Honestly if we got rid of him in the summer and replaced him with the Celtic manager, you’d all be having a collective aneurysm.
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Post by Yusef on Oct 25, 2023 20:22:08 GMT
This is how I feel. For example everyone is rightly heaping praise on Eddie Howe but I'm 100% certain he'd struggle if not more than Ten Hag at this club. Structurally this club is a complete mess. Whilst I don’t disagree about the structure, please enlighten me with what could have been done differently in the 18 months he’s had that would have allowed him to implement his own system and style and we wouldn’t be playing like a bunch of misfits each week? Don't insist on tactics/formations that have zero chance of working in the absence of eleven world class footballers? |
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Post by bushy1987 on Oct 25, 2023 20:26:43 GMT
Whilst I don’t disagree about the structure, please enlighten me with what could have been done differently in the 18 months he’s had that would have allowed him to implement his own system and style and we wouldn’t be playing like a bunch of misfits each week? Don't insist on tactics/formations that have zero chance of working in the absence of eleven world class footballers? Might aswel just get big Sam in then if these players can't play a certain tactic or formation |
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