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Post by Paul on Oct 29, 2023 18:31:13 GMT
Qatar was the only hope for this club, the club is finished, sad to say but once fergie is gone there will be nothing left of the Manchester United we knew, I honestly can't believe what they have done to this once footballing giant, the best thing we could hope for now would be relegation. The revenue we've turned over this season proves we don't need Qatari money. We just need people in charge that know what they're doing and do it for the benefit of the club, not their own pockets. This club is more than self sustainable but it needs certain structures in place to rid the debt, improve infrastructure etc. None of that is being done. |
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Post by Karma on Oct 29, 2023 18:58:12 GMT
Maguire, McTominay and Evans all still starting a game against City in 2023.
Disgusting!
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Post by mightyez on Oct 29, 2023 19:00:42 GMT
Abit confused with Gary Neville, whilst I don’t agree there are larger problems on ground, he has the platform to call people out by name and he ducks it.
Carragher asked a very valid question, if you are Jim Ratcliffe what can you change immediately to help the manager.
Talking about the stadium is a not an immediate, simple it’s the supposed football people like Murtough that you tackle immediately.
Hate to say it but you tell the manager, “your job is to coach and implement a style of football that is attractive, where you require players to fit that style we will scout and get you names to pick from, you will not be telling us who to buy at all costs”.
If ETH ain’t ready to work under that then I’d actually show him the door.
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Post by mightyez on Oct 29, 2023 19:04:16 GMT
Amrabat was not brilliant but why would you take off your only DM and then make someone who can’t play DM go do the role?
Get Fernandes off the pitch and get mount on if you wanted to get mount in the game.
Rashford needs his head corrected and that’s on the bench, reality is though the manager is scared.
If he rocks the boat with more players he knows it ends one way.
The way we are set up is just pathetic, no planning whatsoever, Antony doesn’t create nor does rashford, how can any striker thrive with them?
Midfield lacks creativity, control and strength.
It’s appalling from the board to the pitch, just a really really bad situation
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Post by mightyez on Oct 29, 2023 19:08:35 GMT
Positive = Onana
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Post by Stretty on Oct 29, 2023 19:14:45 GMT
Don't see alot other than a stonking loss. City haven't been stellar lately but more than capable of beating us in third gear. probably even first or second. I can see a comfortable 0-3 to city.i haven’t read through the thread yet as I’ve been out and had a few with the lads this afternoon while watching the match. but what I sad at 10:30 this morning was exactly what happened(my only disappointment was not sticking a grand on it). |
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Post by bushy1987 on Oct 29, 2023 19:17:16 GMT
Qatar was the only hope for this club, the club is finished, sad to say but once fergie is gone there will be nothing left of the Manchester United we knew, I honestly can't believe what they have done to this once footballing giant, the best thing we could hope for now would be relegation. The revenue we've turned over this season proves we don't need Qatari money. We just need people in charge that know what they're doing and do it for the benefit of the club, not their own pockets. This club is more than self sustainable but it needs certain structures in place to rid the debt, improve infrastructure etc. None of that is being done. The thing is we do need the Qatar money, we need a new stadium, we need new training facilities, we need a full reshape of the boardroom, we probably need another 500m on players at least, once that's all done then, yeah the club will sustain itself, but we need a huge injection of cash firstly. The clubs revenue would never be able to achieve that on its own. It's a nice dream to think we don't need a money man in charge, but we do we are probably 10 years behind city in every single department. |
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Post by keanosdog16 on Oct 29, 2023 19:26:34 GMT
Think out of that squad the only players I would keep are hojlund, Mainoo and Gore and they only gets a pass cos I haven’t seen enough of them, perhaps shaw as well but he can never stay fit
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Post by Stretty on Oct 29, 2023 19:31:28 GMT
Another prediction I will make right now is that ETH will be sacked before the end of the season.
The players have either downed tools and/or are just not listening to him.
His signings have been mixed at best.
His in game management is awful.
I hope he turns it around but after 1.5 years and 400 million spent I just can’t see any progress at all.
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Post by viking22 on Oct 29, 2023 19:50:39 GMT
I wouldn't be too disappointed if Erik got the sack. He looks completely out of his depth. Seemingly incapable of getting the best out of the players that he insisted on signing. Players do not seem to respect him. Refuses to drop players who clearly aren't performing. Has a stupid philosophy which is only practical if you are at the best team in the league the way Ajax were and City currently are and is totally unsuited to the squad he has at his disposal. And it is just going to get a lot worse when he runs out of luck and results get worse.
And reason we need Qatar is because this team does still need open heart surgery so we need owners who are quite prepared to scrap most of these wasters and have enough funds that we don't have to always compromise on quality or go for players past their prime.
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Post by Stretty on Oct 29, 2023 20:01:50 GMT
I wouldn't be too disappointed if Erik got the sack. He looks completely out of his depth. Seemingly incapable of getting the best out of the players that he insisted on signing. Players do not seem to respect him. Refuses to drop players who clearly aren't performing. Has a stupid philosophy which is only practical if you are at the best team in the league the way Ajax were and City currently are and is totally unsuited to the squad he has at his disposal. And it is just going to get a lot worse when he runs out of luck and results get worse. And reason we need Qatar is because this team does still need open heart surgery so we need owners who are quite prepared to scrap most of these wasters and have enough funds that we don't have to always compromise on quality or go for players past their prime. 100% You could compare him with a very good manager of a local 7/11 whose just took over a Walmart megastore(Americanised for no apparent reason). |
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Post by johnboy14 on Oct 29, 2023 20:10:20 GMT
The revenue we've turned over this season proves we don't need Qatari money. We just need people in charge that know what they're doing and do it for the benefit of the club, not their own pockets. This club is more than self sustainable but it needs certain structures in place to rid the debt, improve infrastructure etc. None of that is being done. The thing is we do need the Qatar money, we need a new stadium, we need new training facilities, we need a full reshape of the boardroom, we probably need another 500m on players at least, once that's all done then, yeah the club will sustain itself, but we need a huge injection of cash firstly. The clubs revenue would never be able to achieve that on its own. It's a nice dream to think we don't need a money man in charge, but we do we are probably 10 years behind city in every single department. While I agree, I think his point is valid. £1.6bn we've spent in 10 years and we have Johnny Evans playing CB and a mid table squad. The club has been so badly managed, that if it was government department, we'd be having public inquiries. The owners have got to go and quickly. |
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Post by alwaysUnited on Oct 29, 2023 20:12:12 GMT
ETH is risking his career and reputation by building this team around Rashford and Bruno. Biggest mistake so far and for some reason he just cant seem to realise this. That injury crisis is not helping the matter either.
Now that i think about it , our best performance this season came against crystal palace 3-0 win without Bruno and Rashford.
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Post by bushy1987 on Oct 29, 2023 20:22:23 GMT
The thing is we do need the Qatar money, we need a new stadium, we need new training facilities, we need a full reshape of the boardroom, we probably need another 500m on players at least, once that's all done then, yeah the club will sustain itself, but we need a huge injection of cash firstly. The clubs revenue would never be able to achieve that on its own. It's a nice dream to think we don't need a money man in charge, but we do we are probably 10 years behind city in every single department. While I agree, I think his point is valid. £1.6bn we've spent in 10 years and we have Johnny Evans playing CB and a mid table squad. The club has been so badly managed, that if it was government department, we'd be having public inquiries. The owners have got to go and quickly. Yeah 100% but again it all boils down to the people at the top, it's not even any of the managers fault we have spent so much money, we get a different type/style of manager each time who wants different players, there is no forward thinking about getting a certain type of manager who they all have similar ideas regardless of what players they have, only a whole sale clear out from top to bottom will do, the club needs a full blown purge. |
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Post by Stretty on Oct 29, 2023 20:23:18 GMT
The thing is we do need the Qatar money, we need a new stadium, we need new training facilities, we need a full reshape of the boardroom, we probably need another 500m on players at least, once that's all done then, yeah the club will sustain itself, but we need a huge injection of cash firstly. The clubs revenue would never be able to achieve that on its own. It's a nice dream to think we don't need a money man in charge, but we do we are probably 10 years behind city in every single department. While I agree, I think his point is valid. £1.6bn we've spent in 10 years and we have Johnny Evans playing CB and a mid table squad. The club has been so badly managed, that if it was government department, we'd be having public inquiries. The owners have got to go and quickly. it practically is. Poor value for money and underperforming at all levels. |
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