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Post by DedRevil on Jun 3, 2024 18:13:56 GMT
Almost 10 days since the FA cup final , they are still doing one of those reviews i guess. Are we sure its not glazers still running things. Doesnt feel much different , we still have the same indecisiveness , same lack of ambition. Then there is the whole Ashworth fiasco with Newcastle where they are refusing to pay for a guy who is supposed to be vital for clubs plans. The more things change... |
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Post by Karma on Jun 3, 2024 23:21:15 GMT
Almost 10 days since the FA cup final , they are still doing one of those reviews i guess. Are we sure its not glazers still running things. Doesnt feel much different , we still have the same indecisiveness , same lack of ambition. Then there is the whole Ashworth fiasco with Newcastle where they are refusing to pay for a guy who is supposed to be vital for clubs plans. Glazers would have sacked him. LVG missed out on CL on goal difference, won the Fa cup I’d argue his football wasn’t any less tedious on the eye, so what’s changed? Have we lowered an already lowering of expectations now ? |
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Post by harvindhillon on Jun 4, 2024 9:29:57 GMT
Almost 10 days since the FA cup final , they are still doing one of those reviews i guess. Are we sure its not glazers still running things. Doesnt feel much different , we still have the same indecisiveness , same lack of ambition. Then there is the whole Ashworth fiasco with Newcastle where they are refusing to pay for a guy who is supposed to be vital for clubs plans. Glazers would have sacked him. LVG missed out on CL on goal difference, won the Fa cup I’d argue his football wasn’t any less tedious on the eye, so what’s changed? Have we lowered an already lowering of expectations now ? LVG had a squad that won the Premier League 2 seasons prior. LVG spent big as well and didnt have too many injuries. LVG was playing boring football
Among many things, I didnt agree with his sacking as well especially after winning the cup but it is not the same with ETH.
No one is lowering expectations, we won two trophies in back to back years even with so much shit ETH had to deal with. Please enlighten me which manager in your view would have done better under these circumstances? Touchel? Lets recap shall we
1. Already had a thin squad to start with when he arrived with quite a few players leaving on end of contracts. 2. Ronaldo nonsense 3. Greenwood nonsense 4. Antony nonsense 5. Sancho nonsense 6. 45 different injuries to key players with 16 different CB partnerships
Touchel just gave up at Chelsea when they were getting players he didnt not want, but they werent bad players, Poch managed to get something out of them in the end. Same at Bayern, they finished 3rd this year with a squad that had a free scoring Kane! You think he can do something here at United? I highly doubt it.
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Post by Stew on Jun 4, 2024 15:06:08 GMT
The fact this is now what, 9 days on from the FA Cup isn’t a particularly good look imo. And just my gut but the fact it is 9 days on would suggest he’s more likely to get the bullet than stay.
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Post by redcase on Jun 4, 2024 15:35:08 GMT
The fact this is now what, 9 days on from the FA Cup isn’t a particularly good look imo. And just my gut but the fact it is 9 days on would suggest he’s more likely to get the bullet than stay. You think so? I’m getting the opposite vibes. Feel like there’ll be a press release telling us they have full faith in him. |
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Post by Stew on Jun 4, 2024 16:08:58 GMT
The fact this is now what, 9 days on from the FA Cup isn’t a particularly good look imo. And just my gut but the fact it is 9 days on would suggest he’s more likely to get the bullet than stay. You think so? I’m getting the opposite vibes. Feel like there’ll be a press release telling us they have full faith in him. Just a gut feeling. |
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Post by viking22 on Jun 4, 2024 16:14:19 GMT
Perhaps it simply indicates they don't have a replacement lined up yet?
We know under the new structure the manager will have far less involvement in recruitment. And pre-season doesn't start until mid July. So they are in no rush to make their decision and won't be pressured in to it by Erik or the media or the fanbase.
As SJR said he'd rather walk to the right decision than rush to the wrong decision.
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Post by Karma on Jun 4, 2024 18:32:47 GMT
Every manager we’re linked with is a free agent bar one.
Maybe he’s their preference and they’re stuck.
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Post by aussiegraham on Jun 4, 2024 22:27:39 GMT
Unless I’ve missed something, the “ETH for the sack” cries were all just speculation?
If so, why would any announcement be required if he’s staying? As long as he, the players, and any other relevant parties know he’s safe, then it’s onwards and upwards with preparation for next season. IMO it’s more professional to keep it in house rather than respond to the media shit-stirring.
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Post by Stew on Jun 5, 2024 6:19:23 GMT
Unless I’ve missed something, the “ETH for the sack” cries were all just speculation? If so, why would any announcement be required if he’s staying? As long as he, the players, and any other relevant parties know he’s safe, then it’s onwards and upwards with preparation for next season. IMO it’s more professional to keep it in house rather than respond to the media shit-stirring. You have missed something. It’s common knowledge they’re carrying out a full scale review of his performance and have drawn up a list of candidates to replace him. |
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Post by aussiegraham on Jun 5, 2024 8:56:52 GMT
Unless I’ve missed something, the “ETH for the sack” cries were all just speculation? If so, why would any announcement be required if he’s staying? As long as he, the players, and any other relevant parties know he’s safe, then it’s onwards and upwards with preparation for next season. IMO it’s more professional to keep it in house rather than respond to the media shit-stirring. You have missed something. It’s common knowledge they’re carrying out a full scale review of his performance and have drawn up a list of candidates to replace him. Thanks for filling me in, I knew about the review (makes perfect sense), but not that there is an actual replacement list. |
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Post by DedRevil on Jun 5, 2024 9:13:33 GMT
Unless I’ve missed something, the “ETH for the sack” cries were all just speculation? If so, why would any announcement be required if he’s staying? As long as he, the players, and any other relevant parties know he’s safe, then it’s onwards and upwards with preparation for next season. IMO it’s more professional to keep it in house rather than respond to the media shit-stirring. Relevant parties include all of us, and IMO it would be more professional to cut any and all rumours out with one simple statement saying he's staying, nothing to see here etc. |
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Post by DedRevil on Jun 5, 2024 9:23:05 GMT
Unless I’ve missed something, the “ETH for the sack” cries were all just speculation? If so, why would any announcement be required if he’s staying? As long as he, the players, and any other relevant parties know he’s safe, then it’s onwards and upwards with preparation for next season. IMO it’s more professional to keep it in house rather than respond to the media shit-stirring. You have missed something. It’s common knowledge they’re carrying out a full scale review of his performance and have drawn up a list of candidates to replace him. He's a dead man walking. They've no faith in him if it's taking this long/they're interviewing other managers. Could be sacked after the first ten games of the season starts bad if they keep him. |
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Post by viking22 on Jun 5, 2024 11:42:23 GMT
That is the problem really. INEOS have given no public backing to Erik and from what Erik has said little in the way of private assurances as he's as much in the dark as us regarding his future. Erik wasn't appointed by INEOS. So they feel no sense of loyalty towards him. He's essentially been demoted to the role of caretaker manager holding the fort while INEOS decide who they want as a long-term manager. They won't sack him because they haven't lined anyone up yet to replace him. But at the same time they won't back him. So we are stuck in limbo and it is a bad situation to be in.
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Post by aussiegraham on Jun 5, 2024 20:59:23 GMT
Even public backing of a manager means nothing if past history across the game is anything to go by.
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