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Post by unitedsotex on May 3, 2024 0:35:04 GMT
Give Leverkusen everything for Frimpong. Getting him would be a tough sell but I don't see Leverkusen being this long lasting contender so getting what they can while the iron is hot will be important. If we can a at least secure Europa that will help our cause but if we don't then no way he buys whatever we sell him. Getting rid of AWB maybe back to Crystal Palace for Olise would be solid and letting Dalot cover LB when Shaw goes on his yearly injury vacation. |
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Post by Kojak on May 3, 2024 7:13:17 GMT
Not saying don’t sign him, but I am saying for the fucking love of god please be more careful when signing players from the Bundesliga.
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Post by dazjoe on May 3, 2024 7:18:51 GMT
Not saying don’t sign him, but I am saying for the fucking love of god please be more careful when signing players from the Bundesliga. I mean, I agree with the sentiment, but we also bought Maguire and Sanchez from England, Onana and Pogba from Italy, Lindelof from Portugal, Martial from France, Di Maria from Spain, and on and on. The message really should just be "For the love of God please be more careful when signing players." |
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Post by viking22 on May 3, 2024 11:37:29 GMT
Other message is that while we are trying to rebuild we shouldn't be spending big on players full stop.
When you are a top team you have to spend big to add star quality and to bring in players that can make an instant impact.
We are years off being a top team and the focus should be on bringing in promising but not over-hyped young players for moderate transfer fees and putting them on moderate wages. If we are adding 4-5 of such players each summer than even if 1-2 of them don't work out we can probably recoup most of our money and over 3 seasons we'll have 9 more players to add to the handful we have worth keeping (Bruno, Hojlund, Garnacho, Mainoo, Martinez, Scotty). Bring through a few youngsters each season from the Academy (and if the Academy is thin on talent then just poach youngsters the way we poached Garnacho) and 3 seasons from now we might have a squad that can challenge for trophies.
Then we can start to think about spending big on star quality to polish off the squad.
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Post by seanie on May 3, 2024 13:08:46 GMT
Other message is that while we are trying to rebuild we shouldn't be spending big on players full stop. When you are a top team you have to spend big to add star quality and to bring in players that can make an instant impact. We are years off being a top team and the focus should be on bringing in promising but not over-hyped young players for moderate transfer fees and putting them on moderate wages. If we are adding 4-5 of such players each summer than even if 1-2 of them don't work out we can probably recoup most of our money and over 3 seasons we'll have 9 more players to add to the handful we have worth keeping (Bruno, Hojlund, Garnacho, Mainoo, Martinez, Scotty). Bring through a few youngsters each season from the Academy (and if the Academy is thin on talent then just poach youngsters the way we poached Garnacho) and 3 seasons from now we might have a squad that can challenge for trophies. Then we can start to think about spending big on star quality to polish off the squad. I agree.. You get 4/5 players back from fitness issues this year and hopefully they get back to levels from past and you add 4/5 good technical players under 25 at the right age and build from there. That's a massive change next season and another year playing a particular way, with some of these young players having a good first season and hopefully kicking on. |
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Post by seanie on May 3, 2024 13:11:49 GMT
We spent £65m last summer trying to solve our midfield problems by buying Mount and loaning Amrabat. Absolutely a competent recruitment team prepared to push back on the manager's bizarre desire to only sign players he's coached before could have for that money signed a quality midfielder that could have slotted alongside Mainoo and Bruno. There is no room in our midfield for Casemiro though. Even if you buy a young midfielder with legs that would mean you'd have to drop Mainoo or Bruno. And I don't think the issue is necessarily legs. The issue is that we lose the ball cheaply and are bad at regrouping which leaves gaps all over the pitch which Casemiro is too old to fill. We also do not control games which means that the demands are much greater. We are many years away from being in a position where we are so good that we can accommodate a few grizzly veterans to add experience and quality in big games. And lest we forget Casemiro was deemed surplus to requirements by Real Madrid two years ago. The best way to rebuild is to try to get rid of as many of the players we have that are past their prime (Casemiro, Eriksen, Varane) or not good enough (Rashford, Antony, Sancho, Mount, Onana) while keeping a few squad players (Maguire, Scotty, maybe Dalot etc) and then trying to upgrade as many positions as we can rather than hoping that a few expensive signings will change our fortunes. And with Wilcox in the team we should be buying young players we can develop into stars and before they become overhyped and overpriced (e.g. Sancho). It will take time and will result in a few transitional seasons in which our team will be a bit unbalanced but it will eventually pay off in spades if we get the quality right when it comes to recruitment. Yea, that's what Real did 2 years ago and we helped them. |
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Post by bushy1987 on May 3, 2024 14:19:34 GMT
I see Erik is coming out fighting a little bit, saying how he wanted Kane in the summer. Even though levy said he wouldn't sell to another prem team if enough was on the table something would have happened, his signing would have massively improved us,also saying we needed fdj in the middle to begin to play like Ajax, but that there raises the big issue for me and hopefully one ineos is starting to change, if fdj is the key component to getting this team playing how the manager wants and isn't available who at the club behind the scenes was looking for the next fdj or a player with similar abilities to help us play that way.
A big summer Clear out and I am pretty optimistic we might actually start to buy smart and stop wasting cash.
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Post by viking22 on May 3, 2024 14:44:04 GMT
Bayern Munich only paid Tottenham 95m euros (£82m) + add-ons for Kane. You can bet if we'd gazumped them and offered something like £110m cash upfront Levy would have been overruled and they'd have sold for us.
Kane's goals would have kept us in top 4 over the next few years and bought us time to rebuild the rest of the squad. It is the kind of signing that Fergie would have made. And if we'd blown most of our transfer budget on Kane it would have at least meant we wouldn't have been able to sign Onana and Mount.
We knew Hojlund was green and the thinking was probably that if Rashford could score 20-30 goals a season like last year it would take the pressure off him and Antony would also kick on. But sadly Rashford hasn't matured at all and if anything has regressed and less said about Antony the better.
Still Hojlund definitely has a lot of potential and along with Mainoo and Garnacho gives us three players who we can build around. Add some more good young technical players as seanie has suggested and we will be well on our way.
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Post by seanie on May 5, 2024 13:33:04 GMT
We would be better off stumping up for Antonio Silva than paying 70M for Branthwaite. He's by far the best all round young CB in the world right now. He plays usually as a RCB, but is equally good with his Left and Right and much better on the ball/passing with both feet!
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Post by seanie on May 5, 2024 16:43:51 GMT
Maguire is out for 3 weeks now too. We already had one of the worst back fours in the PL recently and a legless midfield. We're heading for 30 CB partnerships this season and 8 players have played left back.
How does anyone think any coach could compete at this level with that! We will need to rebuild the back four and midfield before we spend big on any forwards especially another left footed right winger!
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Post by Stew on May 5, 2024 17:02:07 GMT
Maguire is out for 3 weeks now too. We already had one of the worst back fours in the PL recently and a legless midfield. We're heading for 30 CB partnerships this season and 8 players have played left back. How does anyone think any coach could compete at this level with that! We will need to rebuild the back four and midfield before we spend big on any forwards especially another left footed right winger! Jesus Christ. How did Maguire get injured? |
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Post by Kojak on May 5, 2024 17:58:35 GMT
Maguire is out for 3 weeks now too. We already had one of the worst back fours in the PL recently and a legless midfield. We're heading for 30 CB partnerships this season and 8 players have played left back. How does anyone think any coach could compete at this level with that! We will need to rebuild the back four and midfield before we spend big on any forwards especially another left footed right winger! Jesus Christ. How did Maguire get injured? Muscular injury in training. He’s had a few this season. Think he was playing injured anyway. |
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Post by Karma on May 5, 2024 21:46:25 GMT
Maybe the chaotic way we play is contributing to the ridiculous number of injuries we suffer ?
Just a thought. 🧐
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Post by alwaysUnited on May 6, 2024 5:44:23 GMT
Maybe the chaotic way we play is contributing to the ridiculous number of injuries we suffer ? Just a thought. 🧐 Looks like a combination of poor medical department , injujry prone players ,lack of squad rotation/depth and completely chaotic end to end football. |
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Post by gdmm on May 6, 2024 8:59:49 GMT
Maybe the chaotic way we play is contributing to the ridiculous number of injuries we suffer ? Just a thought. 🧐 That really doesn't hold water. Our injury record has been farcical for years. |
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