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Post by caino on Jun 28, 2024 12:52:45 GMT
Reports saying we’ve cooled our interest in Onana and are focusing all our midfield energy on Ugarte. not surprising the way the dont want to negotiate for branthwaite. i wouldnt have been against that signing though. |
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Post by Stew on Jun 28, 2024 13:28:23 GMT
Reports saying we’ve cooled our interest in Onana and are focusing all our midfield energy on Ugarte. not surprising the way the dont want to negotiate for branthwaite. i wouldnt have been against that signing though. I like both Branthwaite and Onana but Everton we’re really taking the piss, particularly in the former’s case. And especially when you consider it’s a very good market for young, mobile CBs. |
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Post by ratbag on Jun 28, 2024 14:36:35 GMT
Seeing lots of talk about Ugarte. Let’s hope it’s more than talk…
Also it seems that we are going to CAS to be allowed to go for Todibo…
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Post by Stew on Jun 28, 2024 15:18:20 GMT
Seeing lots of talk about Ugarte. Let’s hope it’s more than talk… Also it seems that we are going to CAS to be allowed to go for Todibo… Good. And good. |
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Post by unitedsotex on Jun 28, 2024 16:03:21 GMT
Seeing lots of talk about Ugarte. Let’s hope it’s more than talk… Also it seems that we are going to CAS to be allowed to go for Todibo… Getting those 2 will be a tremendous start to stocking our talent pool. |
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Post by bushy1987 on Jun 28, 2024 18:04:53 GMT
Looks like de.ligt is the CB we will go for 40-45m to get it done, wanted him when he left Ajax as he was quality, but not sure about the deal this time around, but if we can get for a reasonable fee I wouldn't be against it.
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Post by caino on Jun 29, 2024 7:41:29 GMT
Looks like de.ligt is the CB we will go for 40-45m to get it done, wanted him when he left Ajax as he was quality, but not sure about the deal this time around, but if we can get for a reasonable fee I wouldn't be against it. worries me. licha isnt quick but de ligt is another maguire. |
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Post by redcase on Jun 29, 2024 11:23:55 GMT
Looks like de.ligt is the CB we will go for 40-45m to get it done, wanted him when he left Ajax as he was quality, but not sure about the deal this time around, but if we can get for a reasonable fee I wouldn't be against it. worries me. licha isnt quick but de ligt is another maguire. Speed isn't one of Maguire's shortcomings. Also, de Ligt is quicker than Maguire anyway. He is also several levels above him as a defender. |
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Post by viking22 on Jun 30, 2024 8:44:48 GMT
De Ligt is on a very high salary estimated to be around £260k a week. And it makes sense given he's jumped from Ajax to Juventus to Bayern and was so incredibly highly rated in his youth.
But I think it is another reason for caution. And it would undo a lot of the good INEOS are doing in trying to rationalize our wage structure.
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Post by DedRevil on Jun 30, 2024 9:54:31 GMT
De Ligt is on a very high salary estimated to be around £260k a week. And it makes sense given he's jumped from Ajax to Juventus to Bayern and was so incredibly highly rated in his youth. But I think it is another reason for caution. And it would undo a lot of the good INEOS are doing in trying to rationalize our wage structure. Tell Bayern to knock the fee down to £30m, they want that wage off the books. Give him a generous signing fee and nothing over £175k a week |
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Post by DedRevil on Jun 30, 2024 9:59:03 GMT
😂 Some crazy deals going down, it's all bent as fuck.who the fuck is Elliot Anderson 😭
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Post by viking22 on Jun 30, 2024 10:18:05 GMT
There is always a new loophole to exploit. First it was non arms-length deals with Saudi clubs. Then it was Chelsea's infamous 8 year contracts. Now it is inflated prices for academy players to get that sweet FFP pure profit on the books and dubious swap deals.
Only thing we can do is buy right, refuse to overpay, rationalize our cost structure so that our footballing operations are less of a drain on our lucrative commercial operations, and rationalize our wage structure so that if the occasional signing doesn't work out we can still recoup most of our initial outlay.
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Post by seanie on Jun 30, 2024 14:28:58 GMT
As well as having the worst owners and CEO's among the top clubs for the last 10 years, we always seem to lack any creativity to get stuff done. We have a big window mostly wrong then when we need it we're skint! We can't sell any players because of the ridiculous amounts of money and contracts they have and we hold onto mediocre players we could sell because they are loyal or claim to be. blahh
We could bring in 5/6 players easily. We could sell McTominay , Lindelof, Pellelstri, Greenwood, and Shaw easily raise good money and we can split the costs over years and do loan deals with obligations/options.
On the latest transfer rumours, I really like Ugarte and hope we can get something done there. He's way better than anything we have now, despite his supposed limitations, he will make Amrabat and McT look Sunday league in that position. He's a beast and a really tidy footballer. He will get better at anticipating and positioning, but you can't teach that ability to turn in tight spaces or keep the ball and protect it in that way. He's way better technically than he gets credit for.
The Zirzkee deal is way more difficult than the headline release clause of 35M. Jia Joorabchin is involved and probably with others and that is never good. The deal has broken down with Milan, because they are demanding excessive agents fees and now asking for huge wage demands! The lad looks talented and technically very good, but he is 23 and has been floating around the top flight for 4/5 years with very mixed results. He has 14 goals in the last 2 seasons his best years and isn't exactly a prolific striker. I'm surprised he couldn't get into the Dutch squad until a load of injuries and hasn't played a minute of football with Gakpo and Depay and Weghorst ahead of him.
He isn't really a 9 though and could be just coming into his stride, but he plays a bit deeper more 10 and wide left. If we do buy him and Ugarte. What's the point in hanging onto McT?
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Post by viking22 on Jun 30, 2024 14:57:07 GMT
Agree there should be more urgency. We finished 8th this season and are hugely reliant on a few players and when they are injured or out of form we look midtable at best.
We shouldn't be overpaying for players but at the same time some of our initial bids are ridiculous and indicate severe financial constraints. Erik is very keen to get new signings on board in time for pre-season.
FFP is incredibly flawed. But we need to game it to stay competitive and that means selling academy players. If we get a combined total of £50m for Greenwood and Scotty that will increase our budget by £200-£250m (£50m pure profit x 4-5 year contracts). Add that to the £50m rumoured FFP budget before player sales and we have £250-£300m to spend. And that will allow us to buy 4 quality players (a few defenders, a midfielder and a striker).
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Post by Yusef on Jun 30, 2024 19:43:56 GMT
FFP is incredibly flawed. But we need to game it to stay competitive and that means selling academy players. If we get a combined total of £50m for Greenwood and Scotty that will increase our budget by £200-£250m (£50m pure profit x 4-5 year contracts). Add that to the £50m rumoured FFP budget before player sales and we have £250-£300m to spend. And that will allow us to buy 4 quality players (a few defenders, a midfielder and a striker). Are you sure the arithmetic is that simple? Don't we already owe other clubs about £400m for players already at the club? That plus those players' salaries has to come from the same budget. |
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