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Post by mightyez on Jul 25, 2024 11:57:25 GMT
we were linked with him 2 months ago Seems he was left out of the pre-season tour and Chelsea might want to cash in on him for PSR reasons… Odd after giving him one of their infamous Boehly special 7 year contracts. If they shaved £5- £10 million off that price, he'd be off in a heartbeat
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Post by Stew on Jul 25, 2024 12:38:24 GMT
Seems he was left out of the pre-season tour and Chelsea might want to cash in on him for PSR reasons… Odd after giving him one of their infamous Boehly special 7 year contracts. If they shaved £5- £10 million off that price, he'd be off in a heartbeat Isn’t he a bit ‘Loftis-Cheek’ though? Someone people get it into their heads is very good but is actually pretty ordinary?
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Post by viking22 on Jul 25, 2024 14:13:25 GMT
He'd be a useful but pretty mediocre squad player that we'd want to upgrade if we are aiming for 2 good players in every position (which is what we should be aiming for if we're serious about getting back on top). The main attraction is he might be available for half the price of De Ligt and is versatile enough to play right back which would allow us to shift AWB and raise some extra funds.
But I'd much rather we continue to aim high and continue to explore player sales and try to close De Ligt and Ugarte before the end of the summer. We've agreed personal terms which strengthens our negotiating position. Ugarte will be surplus to requirements once PSG sign Neves. And we aren't that far apart on price when it comes to De Ligt and the main issue is probably raising additional funds.
What puzzles me is that we are hearing very little in terms of selling Eriksen, Pellistri and Lindelof. All of them are established internationals and would be useful for a smaller club and you'd think we could raise at least £20m by selling all three of them this summer.
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Post by mightyez on Jul 25, 2024 16:15:33 GMT
Odd after giving him one of their infamous Boehly special 7 year contracts. If they shaved £5- £10 million off that price, he'd be off in a heartbeat Isn’t he a bit ‘Loftis-Cheek’ though? Someone people get it into their heads is very good but is actually pretty ordinary? He is very much a steady eddy type player. Good backup, not a starter. The just got a backup player in Tosin on a free and are trying to earn £25 million!!! I feel for the player but hope everyone tells them to get lost and force a sale at £10 million
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Post by viking22 on Jul 26, 2024 12:00:01 GMT
We've been linked to Marcus Alonso who's a free agent. Missed a lot of last season with back injuries which required an operation in January. But operation was reportedly successful. Can play left back as well as centre back. 33 years old. So would probably accept a short term deal. Comes with a huge amount of experience and left back was a problem position for us last season and I have little faith in Shaw's ability to stay fit and Malacia has a long road to a full recovery. Assuming he manages to pass a medical might be worth a gamble as we clearly don't have enough money to sign a left back this summer and are struggling to scrape enough money together for a midfielder and a 2nd centre back. And before the back injury he never seemed to have any major injury problems in his career.
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Post by fergiegiveusawave on Jul 26, 2024 12:09:01 GMT
Marcos Alonso? Fuck that!
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Post by Diablo Rouge on Jul 26, 2024 12:22:13 GMT
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Post by mightyez on Jul 26, 2024 12:36:44 GMT
They can now get back to the table for AWB
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Post by Kojak on Jul 26, 2024 12:43:27 GMT
Marcos Alonso? Fuck that! Defensively inept. And, you know, a murderer.
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Post by Kojak on Jul 26, 2024 12:44:08 GMT
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Post by unitedsotex on Jul 26, 2024 12:45:30 GMT
My buddy who's a huge Bayern supporter says he was injured a lot for them, I hate putting dampers on potential signings, but we've had enough players take up residency in the medical room. 23/24 Torn muscle fiber Feb 19, 2024 Mar 18, 2024 28 days 23/24 Fitness Jan 30, 2024 Feb 9, 2024 10 days 23/24 Torn muscle bundle Dec 13, 2023 Jan 29, 2024 47 days 23/24 Ill Oct 30, 2023 Nov 2, 2023 3 days 23/24 muscular problems Oct 15, 2023 Oct 23, 2023 8 day
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Post by caino on Jul 26, 2024 12:57:08 GMT
non of these RB's fill me with confidence that they will offer more than AWB. as limited as he his going forward his defensive capabilities outweigh his shortfalls. this isnt me saying we shouldnt recruit, but if we are, we should be aiming for better than Dalot and our budget wont stretch that far.
id rather let AWB run down his contract and keep him for this year and then work out the RB situation next summer.
im not liking how our activity has slown down either, looks like the budget has ran out and our outgoings arent making up any great numbers. big couple of weeks left.
i need a new dopamine hit
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Post by unitedsotex on Jul 26, 2024 13:14:05 GMT
non of these RB's fill me with confidence that they will offer more than AWB. as limited as he his going forward his defensive capabilities outweigh his shortfalls. this isnt me saying we shouldnt recruit, but if we are, we should be aiming for better than Dalot and our budget wont stretch that far. id rather let AWB run down his contract and keep him for this year and then work out the RB situation next summer. im not liking how our activity has slown down either, looks like the budget has ran out and our outgoings arent making up any great numbers. big couple of weeks left. i need a new dopamine hit I agree, I think we should be spending our time on midfield and CB. Getting rid of McTominey, Casemiro, and either Maguire/Lindelof
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Post by viking22 on Jul 26, 2024 14:01:30 GMT
Mazraoui is better going forward than AWB and solid enough defensively and can play at RB as well as LB (which is useful considering Shaw and Malacia's injury issues). So if we can sell AWB for £15m and reinvest the money in Mazraoui (and West Ham agreed a fee of around that amount with Bayern) then I think it is logical deal considering our financial constraints.
Eventually caino is right we will need to invest in a more reliable LB than Shaw and a better RB than Dalot. But that will cost £30-40m apiece and we don't have that kind of money to spend this summer and probably won't have it next summer either as we have other more pressing priorities. But I think that having two decent fullbacks who can play on either flank while we see whether Malacia can recover from injury and kick on and see how Amass and other youngsters develop makes sense.
Main concern for me with Mazraoui is he also seems to be quite injury prone.
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Post by Rustin Cohle on Jul 26, 2024 17:28:16 GMT
What a sad fucking world we live in where the clubs and player can agree, but an agent can call the whole thing off because they want a bigger fee.
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