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Post by Stew on Jul 27, 2024 10:10:36 GMT
If the multiple reports of us having to now sell before we buy, then I’m sorry but this has been another poorly executed window so far. Zirkzee and Yoro (in particular) were excellent pick ups but at present they are coming at the expense of our most pressing need, Midfield. We have also started the US tour without us fixing that most glaring issue. Amrabat seems to be the only realistic option being mentioned and he’s mostly useless. Arsenal look like they’re about to nab Ruiz from PSG so our plan of waiting for the French side to need money to cover the Neves fee looks like it’s bound for failure. EDIT maybe this will be Collyer’s chance?
I’m also concerned by the idea that we effectively had a budget of 65 million to work with after that disastrous season. (97 for the 2 lads minus the Greenwood and Willy fees)
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Post by Kojak on Jul 27, 2024 11:51:35 GMT
If the multiple reports of us having to now sell before we buy, then I’m sorry but this has been another poorly executed window so far. Zirkzee and Yoro (in particular) were excellent pick ups but at present they are coming at the expense of our most pressing need, Midfield. We have also started the US tour without us fixing that most glaring issue. Amrabat seems to be the only realistic option being mentioned and he’s mostly useless. Arsenal look like they’re about to nab Ruiz from PSG so our plan of waiting for the French side to need money to cover the Neves fee looks like it’s bound for failure. EDIT maybe this will be Collyer’s chance? I’m also concerned by the idea that we effectively had a budget of 65 million to work with after that disastrous season. (97 for the 2 lads minus the Greenwood and Willy fees) We’ve become so shit at having transfers done in time for the pre-season tour that I think a lot of us were just buzzing initially to have some new faces in early doors. However you’re right. Now the dust is settling, we’re actually currently in a worse situation with our midfield than we were last season as Amrabat has gone back (even though he’s shit, he’s a body). Unless Collyer is further along than we think.
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Post by Stew on Jul 27, 2024 12:20:43 GMT
If the multiple reports of us having to now sell before we buy, then I’m sorry but this has been another poorly executed window so far. Zirkzee and Yoro (in particular) were excellent pick ups but at present they are coming at the expense of our most pressing need, Midfield. We have also started the US tour without us fixing that most glaring issue. Amrabat seems to be the only realistic option being mentioned and he’s mostly useless. Arsenal look like they’re about to nab Ruiz from PSG so our plan of waiting for the French side to need money to cover the Neves fee looks like it’s bound for failure. EDIT maybe this will be Collyer’s chance? I’m also concerned by the idea that we effectively had a budget of 65 million to work with after that disastrous season. (97 for the 2 lads minus the Greenwood and Willy fees) We’ve become so shit at having transfers done in time for the pre-season tour that I think a lot of us were just buzzing initially to have some new faces in early doors. However you’re right. Now the dust is settling, we’re actually currently in a worse situation with our midfield than we were last season as Amrabat has gone back (even though he’s shit, he’s a body). Unless Collyer is further along than we think. Nail on the head.
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Post by viking22 on Jul 27, 2024 12:46:57 GMT
Hard to say that Yoro and Zirkzee weren’t needed. If we hadn’t signed them what on earth would we do if Martinez or Hojlund got injured next season ? And does anyone really think that Lindelof or Maguire could step into Varane’s shoes ?
Our budget is pathetic. FFP sucks and we overspent on mostly rubbish players in previous windows.
If we truly are broke and cannot sell anyone for a decent fee then at least sign up Rabiot on a free.
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Post by mightyez on Jul 27, 2024 12:51:23 GMT
Gonna keep my powder dry. 2 lovely signings thus far, Collyer gonna get chances, Amass the same. Hopefully they both grab them, realise their potential and in doing so we save a ton.
We need to get rid of players, that’s a clear as night and day fact. Can’t have Eriksen, Casemiro in midfield and go add to that. We needed a striker as we had one, we got one. Yoro was a deal that we couldn’t sleep on, we got it done, albeit for 10 million more than needed.
Might not be the most pressing areas but we had spaces in those positions and they are filled.
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Post by bushy1987 on Jul 27, 2024 13:11:09 GMT
With the euros and Copa this summer, probably a few of our midfield targets wouldn't have even gone on the tour anyway, we always knew we needed too sell before we buy as the squad is still packed with shit, plus the fact not many other teams are making moves I'm not really concerned, I still think will pick up a cm and and a FB.
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Post by Stew on Jul 27, 2024 13:12:36 GMT
Hard to say that Yoro and Zirkzee weren’t needed. If we hadn’t signed them what on earth would we do if Martinez or Hojlund got injured next season ? And does anyone really think that Lindelof or Maguire could step into Varane’s shoes ? Our budget is pathetic. FFP sucks and we overspent on mostly rubbish players in previous windows. If we truly are broke and cannot sell anyone for a decent fee then at least sign up Rabiot on a free. No one is saying they weren’t needed. We’re saying CM should have been the priority if the budget was this tight.
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Post by mightyez on Jul 27, 2024 13:49:22 GMT
Hard to say that Yoro and Zirkzee weren’t needed. If we hadn’t signed them what on earth would we do if Martinez or Hojlund got injured next season ? And does anyone really think that Lindelof or Maguire could step into Varane’s shoes ? Our budget is pathetic. FFP sucks and we overspent on mostly rubbish players in previous windows. If we truly are broke and cannot sell anyone for a decent fee then at least sign up Rabiot on a free. No one is saying they weren’t needed. We’re saying CM should have been the priority if the budget was this tight. Ugarte was the first bid. They rejected, we decided to not do what we have done every summer and get obsessed with one deal, we did other deals. Everyone is having a pretty slow market and I know that many others are better equipped than us but I think we will do what needs to be done this summer.
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Post by mightyez on Jul 27, 2024 13:52:15 GMT
Also some offload recruits will hopefully make a significant difference to the players we have and want to keep. I suggest Hojlund and Zirkzee report for some one to one time with Ruud
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Post by Stew on Jul 27, 2024 13:53:36 GMT
No one is saying they weren’t needed. We’re saying CM should have been the priority if the budget was this tight. Ugarte was the first bid. They rejected, we decided to not do what we have done every summer and get obsessed with one deal, we did other deals. Everyone is having a pretty slow market and I know that many others are better equipped than us but I think we will do what needs to be done this summer. It doesn’t really matter that others are having a slow market though. None of them finished 8th in the league. The FA Cup was a lovely bonus but we were a shambles last season, our midfield was a disgrace and nothing has been done to fix it.
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Post by mightyez on Jul 27, 2024 14:29:10 GMT
Ugarte was the first bid. They rejected, we decided to not do what we have done every summer and get obsessed with one deal, we did other deals. Everyone is having a pretty slow market and I know that many others are better equipped than us but I think we will do what needs to be done this summer. It doesn’t really matter that others are having a slow market though. None of them finished 8th in the league. The FA Cup was a lovely bonus but we were a shambles last season, our midfield was a disgrace and nothing has been done to fix it. As I said “many others are better than us”
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Post by seanie on Jul 27, 2024 17:18:49 GMT
Ugarte was the first bid. They rejected, we decided to not do what we have done every summer and get obsessed with one deal, we did other deals. Everyone is having a pretty slow market and I know that many others are better equipped than us but I think we will do what needs to be done this summer. It doesn’t really matter that others are having a slow market though. None of them finished 8th in the league. The FA Cup was a lovely bonus but we were a shambles last season, our midfield was a disgrace and nothing has been done to fix it. It's worrying, but I guess it's still relatively early and maybe they are trying to get it right without rushing in. I've said it from the start, if we don't buy well in central midfield and the left side of defense we'll have the same problems and a major risk on recurring injury again! As well as no real movement in midfield, I find it odd all this talk about right back, when we have an obvious need for a left back.
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Post by seanie on Jul 27, 2024 17:47:03 GMT
If the multiple reports of us having to now sell before we buy, then I’m sorry but this has been another poorly executed window so far. Zirkzee and Yoro (in particular) were excellent pick ups but at present they are coming at the expense of our most pressing need, Midfield. We have also started the US tour without us fixing that most glaring issue. Amrabat seems to be the only realistic option being mentioned and he’s mostly useless. Arsenal look like they’re about to nab Ruiz from PSG so our plan of waiting for the French side to need money to cover the Neves fee looks like it’s bound for failure. EDIT maybe this will be Collyer’s chance? I’m also concerned by the idea that we effectively had a budget of 65 million to work with after that disastrous season. (97 for the 2 lads minus the Greenwood and Willy fees) Fucking hell Arsenal getting Ruiz and Calafiori without much ado and we're hyped to shit over Zirkzee and Yoro.
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Post by unitedsotex on Jul 27, 2024 18:24:26 GMT
Didn't know he was a free agent.... was thinking this was going to give a little bit a cash.
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Post by viking22 on Jul 28, 2024 18:52:32 GMT
Reports saying we've agreed a price with West Ham for AWB and they are confident that their salary package will entice him to sign for them even though he reportedly prefers Inter. And we've reached a verbal agreement with Bayern for Mazrouai. Imagine it will be for a similar amount so won't impact our net spent by much.
That will leave our net spend at around £40m and I am positive that our FFP limit is at least double that. So I think the holdup in signing a midfielder most likely reflects a refusal to be ripped off by PSG and a belief that they will moderate their demands once they sign Neves and need to balance the books. And I am sure we have alternative targets lined up if PSG refuse to yield.
Everton are reportedly close to signing O'Brien from Lyon so might be more reasonable over Branthwaite.
So dominos are starting to fall and I think we need to be patient and trust that INEOS know what they are doing and are well aware of the areas that need strengthening because so far they've executed incredibly well.
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