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Post by kareem7 on Sept 17, 2006 17:12:03 GMT
i would have taken o'shea and rooney off for carrick and solskjaer and kept scholes on. i would have taken fletcher instead of rooney 'n sub him with ole
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Post by redom on Sept 17, 2006 17:12:38 GMT
I'm so disappointed with our performance today, to be honest they well deserved their win and we should feel ashamed because they out played us with better passing and movement. This just confirms my belief that O'shea and Fletcher aren't good enough for us, I don't mind O'shea as a squad player but in games like this we need better quality starting. I think losing VDS was a big loss because our defence has been shaky enough without losing him and that early penalty spurred them on, Kusczak didn't play too badly but I firmly believe VDS would have saved that goal and would have added to our performance.
The subs where strange, I know Scholes and Rooney haven't played much but they're both capable of making something out of nothing even when they aren't at their best so to bring them off was ridiculous and just gave Arsenal more encouragement.
This has been a real eye opener and brings us back down to earth with a bang after our good start, I just hope we can bounce back from this right away.
I feel physically sick at the moment and I'm going to be in a shite mood for the next few days after such an awful day.
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Post by BenW_23 on Sept 17, 2006 17:12:42 GMT
Theres no blame lying on Sir Alex what-so-ever, all the blame lies with the players who were disgraceful today
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Post by kearnsey6 on Sept 17, 2006 17:12:59 GMT
and there was way too many fucking long balls cos arsenal had all players behind the ball!
p.s who keeps on ruining my reputation.
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Post by schmeichelstarjump! on Sept 17, 2006 17:13:17 GMT
why the fuck are you lot moaning at saf for?? why did he take scholes off? cos carrick and scholes are both fucking creative non tackling midfielders, the team he picked was right and he thought hed play that. we were a shambles today and we keep giving the ball away needlessly im fucking irate and i honestly thought that solskjaer had scored carrick and scholes can play together and carrick can tackle so u are saying that you would rather have o'shea in the middle with scholes rather than carrick when we need to push forward and score a goal at home!
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Post by schmeichelstarjump! on Sept 17, 2006 17:13:52 GMT
right im off
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Post by mufckeano16 on Sept 17, 2006 17:14:16 GMT
FOOKING BRILLIANT!! FUCK OSHEA AND FLETCHER, my patience is lost with these 2
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Post by JoshReddevilz on Sept 17, 2006 17:14:42 GMT
we were disgraceful, thank god that the other teams had a shit starting
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Post by andoverred on Sept 17, 2006 17:15:25 GMT
That sounds like a plan to me Now where's those bottles of tribute ale got to..... I am find them for the tears!
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Post by kareem7 on Sept 17, 2006 17:15:30 GMT
Theres no blame lying on Sir Alex what-so-ever, all the blame lies with the players who were disgraceful today are you serious ?? is that a formation to start with against arsenal ?? those subs he made, did they please you ?? as soon as scholes went off, arsenal scored !! keeping fletcher and o'shea full match instead of the 18.6 million carrick and ur saying no blame on sir alex ?!!!!!!
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Post by Sky Sports 1 on Sept 17, 2006 17:15:54 GMT
Probably 2 of the worst subs i've ever seen. O'Shea might have been man marking but he was shit. Fletcher wasn't involved.. at all. Ronaldo wasted everything, alongside Evra.
Rooney isn't fit, so Saha was trying to play alone basically and getting exhausted.
Crap as a team, crap subs, good to get a kick in the backside this early in the season although a complete waste of an opportunity to take Arsenal out of it, now they've been let back in. At least they have a 6 day rest now, although if they defend like this against Reading, we will lose.
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Post by kearnsey6 on Sept 17, 2006 17:16:54 GMT
im not saying o shea is better than carrick but i can see why saf played sheasy cos quite frankly he puts in a lot more tackles than carrick and he stopped alot of through balls, he did however on the downside give the ball away far too often, we wanted hargreaves for the big matches and im soo annoyed we didnt get him cos i see how much we need him now
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Post by SuperVidic on Sept 17, 2006 17:20:25 GMT
im not saying o shea is better than carrick but i can see why saf played sheasy cos quite frankly he puts in a lot more tackles than carrick and he stopped alot of through balls, he did however on the downside give the ball away far too often, we wanted hargreaves for the big matches and im soo annoyed we didnt get him cos i see how much we need him now I can understand O'Shea starting but leaving O'Shea and Fletcher on is something i will never fully understand
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Post by matkaman on Sept 17, 2006 17:32:05 GMT
Dont think it mattered who was subed or who came on for us today we were not up for it ,first decent team we have played so far and the lack of depth and quality showed today.The squad is not strong enough ,had the entire summer to offload shat like Fletcher and bring in players.18million pound player on the bench against the enemy like the arse ,questions will be asked?
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Post by missunited on Sept 17, 2006 17:32:23 GMT
Carrick can tackle, but the important thing is that together him and Scholes would have kept much more possession, no question about it, and no maybe about it. O'shea is alright against lesser oposition, but not against Arsenal, him and fletcher should have been taken off before, anyone who said either did well did not watch the match.
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