Reading v UNITED (23rd September)

[Tatty]

The penalty was a penalty, you can see Gaz Nev moving his hand toward the ball. Although I blame that Wobbly Gobbed Tosser from poncing out if a clearance.

What concerns me is that we had 2 strikers on the bench, why not start one of them? They changed the game when they came on.

[Busby Boy]

Don't blame Rio just because you don't like him personally and love Nev. It's a fuckin' joke that.

Rio, can have defensive lapses but is our best defender. When he makes mistakes fans like you let the whole world know when Heinze, who does make as much if not more than Rio, make mistakes no body says nothing and when it's Nev, guess what nobody says nothing again!..it's a fuckin' joke and that's one thing I don't like about some of our fans.

[Tatty]

mufcadz said:

Don't blame Rio just because you don't like him personally and love Nev. It's a fuckin' joke that.

Rio, can have defensive lapses but is our best defender. When he makes mistakes fans like you let the whole world know when Heinze, who does make as much if not more than Rio, make mistakes no body says nothing and when it's Nev, guess what nobody says nothing again!..it's a fuckin' joke and that's one thing I don't like about some of our fans.

But it was his fault. He pulled his foot away from the ball. He could have cleared it quite easily.

Although saying that, I dunno if he got a shout or not, but I'm calling it as I see it.

And as for Rio, I'm one of his biggest fans generally.

[Vidic's Bitch !]

you shouldn't blame the players just because you dont like them.i hate rio and i dont blame him if it wasn't hes fault.its the same with fletcher who now seems to be the fans scapegoat

[SuperVidic]

mufcadz said:

Don't blame Rio just because you don't like him personally and love Nev. It's a fuckin' joke that.

Rio, can have defensive lapses but is our best defender. When he makes mistakes fans like you let the whole world know when Heinze, who does make as much if not more than Rio, make mistakes no body says nothing and when it's Nev, guess what nobody says nothing again!..it's a fuckin' joke and that's one thing I don't like about some of our fans.

For me the penalty was Nev's fault. Rio is a good defender he could be great but his consistency is horrible. Almost every time i see him play he has that "WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING "-moment in game. For me Rio is lazy and overrated but he's a Utdplayer so i love him ;D

[Busby Boy]

"Lazy & Over Rated"... you're funny.

[Vidic's Bitch !]

mufcadz said:

"Lazy & Over Rated"... you're funny.

i suppose it is but its true ;D

[mufckeano16]

i think the past 2 games have really outlined the serious problem manutd has. Without giggs we play fuck all. what happens when he is permanently gone? what r we gonna do? coz we sure as hell wont replace him just like we havent replaced fecking keano

[schmeichel]

dat game was probly d most 1 sided game ive seen we dominated it i dont fink it wer a penalty n all yuz criticisin ferdinand i dnt lik im prsonaly coz e iz not d type of defenda i like 2 c but e is still 1 of d best in d world i agree wid dat supaman lad e talks sense it ant bin d same since giggzy got injurd gnst celtic id like 2 c carrick push 4ward abit more ino es not dat sort of playa but i fink e cud improve on is attakin also rooney cant play lone strika e needz saha up der wiv im n e iz not fit e just dusnt look sharp opefuly e can get bak 2 form but stop getn all wound up lads wel b bak KEEP D RED FLAG FLYIN HIGH COZ MAN UNITED WIL NEVA DIE!!!! REDARMY

[Marc]

There is something a bit off happening at united, we are just not performing at the level that a team like us should be. i mean a draw at the weekend whats that all about?

The FA are tossers as well i think there is a bit of cheating going on behind closed doors with the referees

what do you all think??

[missunited]

We've had two matches where the points haven't gone our way, somehow I don't think that is reason to get all paranoid and give up on the whole season.

[nyred]

now i usually dislike the posts about blaming saf or the glazers etc but i have had enough.
what the fuck is going on. quieroz picked that team with his two defensive midfielders. fletcher is a very average premiership player. admit it if he played week in week out for wigan would you even notice.
lads and lassies rio is over rated and a real big time charley. at least silvesre will stick his head in. brown has so much tralent but need to be careful. needs to stay away from the idea that he should be the next rio but rather be more like staam.
rooney was obviously struggling during the world cup as the lone striker. did saf smoke his breakfast. what the fuck are you doing alex. play saha or ole.
now heres the real rant if your still reading.
it is absolutely crazy that man united the greatest team in the world are relying on certain players as back up. i mentioned fletcher but jesus he looks like maradonna compared to jos. now i am irish and i have given this guy so much breathing room but enough. he is NOT good enough.
where the fuck were the transfers during the summer. saf can claim all he wants that it is easier under the new regime but all we have done is buy an over priced mid fielder. i hope and pray carrick works but would he have grabbed viera by the throat?
now you may say shut up we drew one and lost 1-0 to arsenil but the fact is thank god gravesen is such a muppett or we would have drawn at home to a team that wouldnt beatman city never mind us. we beat no one before this and i would go as far as to say if spurs could finish they would have beat us.
do not all jump all over me as if i am a just a blow in. i have supported united since the days of f a cups and that was it. i also want nothing more than to return to the trble but someone has to straighten this shit out and QUICKLY

[onenedkelly]

Fair points mate can see where ya coming from and yes we do need to step it up.
Players like Fletcher and O'Shea DO have the talent it's trying to get the best out of these players CONSISTANTLY thats the Probs.
O'Shea's stats for tackling and successfull passes is up their with any other midfielder to play in the Prem this season, and Fletchers best position is Centre Midfield, he's crap on the right thats for sure.
We've never really had great back up players, The likes of Phil Neville and O'Shea are the usual class of our reserves bar the formiddable 4 up front in 99 we've never had adequate cover in depth.

As for team selection it seems it's become an Urban myth that Queroz is picking the teams especially when we don't get the result.
So Fergie, Away from home WE MUST play with a target man to give us other options if were playing for a win we can't play 1 up front, especially and obviously a not fit Ronney, I think again we underestimated the opposition and have paid the price for it.
I also believe we should have started with Carrick against Le Arse so Im gonna agree with ya that team selections a problem cos the two OBVIOUS mistakes Ive pointed out have resulted in us gaining only 1 point from a possible 6 and thats just not good enough.

nyred said:

now i usually dislike the posts about blaming saf or the glazers etc but i have had enough.
what the fuck is going on. quieroz picked that team with his two defensive midfielders. fletcher is a very average premiership player. admit it if he played week in week out for wigan would you even notice.
lads and lassies rio is over rated and a real big time charley. at least silvesre will stick his head in. brown has so much tralent but need to be careful. needs to stay away from the idea that he should be the next rio but rather be more like staam.
rooney was obviously struggling during the world cup as the lone striker. did saf smoke his breakfast. what the fuck are you doing alex. play saha or ole.
now heres the real rant if your still reading.
it is absolutely crazy that man united the greatest team in the world are relying on certain players as back up. i mentioned fletcher but jesus he looks like maradonna compared to jos. now i am irish and i have given this guy so much breathing room but enough. he is NOT good enough.
where the fuck were the transfers during the summer. saf can claim all he wants that it is easier under the new regime but all we have done is buy an over priced mid fielder. i hope and pray carrick works but would he have grabbed viera by the throat?
now you may say shut up we drew one and lost 1-0 to arsenil but the fact is thank god gravesen is such a muppett or we would have drawn at home to a team that wouldnt beatman city never mind us. we beat no one before this and i would go as far as to say if spurs could finish they would have beat us.
do not all jump all over me as if i am a just a blow in. i have supported united since the days of f a cups and that was it. i also want nothing more than to return to the trble but someone has to straighten this shit out and QUICKLY

[Red Yank]

onenedkelly said:

Fair points mate can see where ya coming from and yes we do need to step it up.
Players like Fletcher and O'Shea DO have the talent it's trying to get the best out of these players CONSISTANTLY thats the Probs.
O'Shea's stats for tackling and successfull passes is up their with any other midfielder to play in the Prem this season, and Fletchers best position is Centre Midfield, he's crap on the right thats for sure.
We've never really had great back up players, The likes of Phil Neville and O'Shea are the usual class of our reserves bar the formiddable 4 up front in 99 we've never had adequate cover in depth.

As for team selection it seems it's become an Urban myth that Queroz is picking the teams especially when we don't get the result.
So Fergie, Away from home WE MUST play with a target man to give us other options if were playing for a win we can't play 1 up front, especially and obviously a not fit Ronney, I think again we underestimated the opposition and have paid the price for it.
I also believe we should have started with Carrick against Le Arse so Im gonna agree with ya that team selections a problem cos the two OBVIOUS mistakes Ive pointed out have resulted in us gaining only 1 point from a possible 6 and thats just not good enough.

Starting Rooney up front by himself was just a really strange decision...to say there were a good reason for it based on past performances then I could understand but we saw it didn't work for the England side so why would you play him in that position especially when he isn't at his best either? That was the million dollar question for me on Saturday...

[Busby Boy]

Miss United, thank you for that it's what I've been saying too...