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Post by adexkola on Dec 23, 2007 17:03:51 GMT
Why would it be a fair result if it was a draw? We conceded a soft goal and Everton sat back and tried to defend the point for the second half. Based on the first half, yes, I'd say a draw was even, but in the second half, Everton offered NOTHING. We were fortunate that Everton showed inexperience at the back and gave away the penalty, but I strongly deserve we deserved every one of the three points today, because we played for a win, and they played for a draw. You come to Old Trafford playing for a draw then you deserve everything you get...which is usually nothing! Maybe I need to watch MOTD or something, because to read people say "Everton wanted it more" makes me think I've been at a different game! I thought it was all about Giggs today. I love it when he plays like that. Always seems to come out with the ball, taking players on, playing good balls. Rooney was great second half. Evra worked his balls off, as per usual. Complaints: John O'Shea was fucking SHIT. Carrick contributed nothing positive to the match and looked lightweight...would have been massively exposed if we were playing at Goodison today. Agreed on most points there scott but we didn't deserve to win everton were always dangerous on the break plus they defended really well, we did that last week does that make us any less deserving than everton. Carrick was really ordinary today and showed very little for his expensive price tag, quite frankly he's got worse than last season, at least last season he was contributing quite a lot in the second half of the season. Anderson had a poor game aswell but its expected sometimes. I was kind of disappointed not to see Nani start. His pace and energy would have given them greater problems that giggs. Yes we got the points but a worrying performance with a couple of tough matches on the horizon and fergie calling ronaldos performance 'absolutely perfect' worries me more. I don't mean to be rude, but this pessimistic attitude isn't helping anyone here. Look at the positives, and try to weigh in everything together. You can't deny the fact that everton did nothing in the second half.
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Post by Vidic's Bitch ! on Dec 23, 2007 17:11:09 GMT
Agreed on most points there scott but we didn't deserve to win everton were always dangerous on the break plus they defended really well, we did that last week does that make us any less deserving than everton. Carrick was really ordinary today and showed very little for his expensive price tag, quite frankly he's got worse than last season, at least last season he was contributing quite a lot in the second half of the season. Anderson had a poor game aswell but its expected sometimes. I was kind of disappointed not to see Nani start. His pace and energy would have given them greater problems that giggs. Yes we got the points but a worrying performance with a couple of tough matches on the horizon and fergie calling ronaldos performance 'absolutely perfect' worries me more. I don't mean to be rude, but this pessimistic attitude isn't helping anyone here. Look at the positives, and try to weigh in everything together. You can't deny the fact that everton did nothing in the second half. exactly and nani to start lay of the drugs mate #shakehead#
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Post by Andrej7 on Dec 23, 2007 17:25:00 GMT
good solid performance ronaldo was great and makes some good crosses kuszack wasnt so much in this match, many clereances ended in out most important is that we won and take 3 points from not easy opponent
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Post by johnboy14 on Dec 23, 2007 18:00:45 GMT
I don't mean to be rude, but this pessimistic attitude isn't helping anyone here. Look at the positives, and try to weigh in everything together. You can't deny the fact that everton did nothing in the second half. exactly and nani to start lay of the drugs mate #shakehead# I haven't exactly been nani's biggest fan of late but giggs has been pants all season and doesn't deserve to start.
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Post by Vidic's Bitch ! on Dec 23, 2007 18:05:59 GMT
exactly and nani to start lay of the drugs mate #shakehead# I haven't exactly been nani's biggest fan of late but giggs has been pants all season and doesn't deserve to start. Giggs has more quality in his left toe than Nani has in his whole body Giggs was fairly good today,one of the better performers.and we got Park back now so no need to resort to Nani
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Post by johnboy14 on Dec 23, 2007 18:09:11 GMT
I haven't exactly been nani's biggest fan of late but giggs has been pants all season and doesn't deserve to start. Giggs has more quality in his left toe than Nani has in his whole body Giggs was fairly good today,one of the better performers.and we got Park back now so no need to resort to Nani This sudden change in attitude towards giggs is quite remarkable. I didn't know nani was bought to play in the reserves.
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Post by Vidic's Bitch ! on Dec 23, 2007 18:21:23 GMT
Giggs has more quality in his left toe than Nani has in his whole body Giggs was fairly good today,one of the better performers.and we got Park back now so no need to resort to Nani This sudden change in attitude towards giggs is quite remarkable. I didn't know nani was bought to play in the reserves. I aint changed my attitude on Giggs,i think his the best player to walk the planet but i know few agree,Nani wasnt bought for that but his shit so thats were he should play.Nani in a swap deal for Bentley or Ashley young,that would be some good business
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Post by mufcjoe on Dec 23, 2007 19:16:11 GMT
Why would it be a fair result if it was a draw? We conceded a soft goal and Everton sat back and tried to defend the point for the second half. Based on the first half, yes, I'd say a draw was even, but in the second half, Everton offered NOTHING. We were fortunate that Everton showed inexperience at the back and gave away the penalty, but I strongly deserve we deserved every one of the three points today, because we played for a win, and they played for a draw. You come to Old Trafford playing for a draw then you deserve everything you get...which is usually nothing! Maybe I need to watch MOTD or something, because to read people say "Everton wanted it more" makes me think I've been at a different game! I thought it was all about Giggs today. I love it when he plays like that. Always seems to come out with the ball, taking players on, playing good balls. Rooney was great second half. Evra worked his balls off, as per usual. Complaints: John O'Shea was fucking SHIT. Carrick contributed nothing positive to the match and looked lightweight...would have been massively exposed if we were playing at Goodison today. Agreed on most points there scott but we didn't deserve to win everton were always dangerous on the break plus they defended really well, we did that last week does that make us any less deserving than everton. Carrick was really ordinary today and showed very little for his expensive price tag, quite frankly he's got worse than last season, at least last season he was contributing quite a lot in the second half of the season. Anderson had a poor game aswell but its expected sometimes. I was kind of disappointed not to see Nani start. His pace and energy would have given them greater problems that giggs. Yes we got the points but a worrying performance with a couple of tough matches on the horizon and fergie calling ronaldos performance 'absolutely perfect' worries me more. We at least attacked vs Liverpool, we created, Everton didnt today. And Nani aint shit he has looked good when hes been playing imo. Giggs is great but only on his day which is becoming less and less frequent now!
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Post by Vidic's Bitch ! on Dec 23, 2007 19:20:01 GMT
Agreed on most points there scott but we didn't deserve to win everton were always dangerous on the break plus they defended really well, we did that last week does that make us any less deserving than everton. Carrick was really ordinary today and showed very little for his expensive price tag, quite frankly he's got worse than last season, at least last season he was contributing quite a lot in the second half of the season. Anderson had a poor game aswell but its expected sometimes. I was kind of disappointed not to see Nani start. His pace and energy would have given them greater problems that giggs. Yes we got the points but a worrying performance with a couple of tough matches on the horizon and fergie calling ronaldos performance 'absolutely perfect' worries me more. We at least attacked vs Liverpool, we created, Everton didnt today. And Nani aint shit he has looked good when hes been playing imo. Giggs is great but only on his day which is becoming less and less frequent now! Nani has looked good when his scored those two goals,two good shots,thats all his done,far to slow at passing the ball and thats coz he aint got the vision to see an early pass.
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Post by moxdevil on Dec 23, 2007 19:34:56 GMT
Why would it be a fair result if it was a draw? We conceded a soft goal and Everton sat back and tried to defend the point for the second half. Based on the first half, yes, I'd say a draw was even, but in the second half, Everton offered NOTHING. We were fortunate that Everton showed inexperience at the back and gave away the penalty, but I strongly deserve we deserved every one of the three points today, because we played for a win, and they played for a draw. You come to Old Trafford playing for a draw then you deserve everything you get...which is usually nothing! Maybe I need to watch MOTD or something, because to read people say "Everton wanted it more" makes me think I've been at a different game! I thought it was all about Giggs today. I love it when he plays like that. Always seems to come out with the ball, taking players on, playing good balls. Rooney was great second half. Evra worked his balls off, as per usual. Complaints: John O'Shea was fucking SHIT. Carrick contributed nothing positive to the match and looked lightweight...would have been massively exposed if we were playing at Goodison today. I'd go along with that summary. I'm always of the opinion that if you score more goals than the opposition you deserve to win. O'Shea has a zonal passing thing going; he doesn't look to pick anyone out specifically just put it in the general direction and let his team mate try to win the ball back. Overall i thought we played well enough, even if the strikers were off. Incidently i am typing this with my left hand after having fucked up by right elbow slipping on ice 2 hours before the game. Clumsy bastard has made Christmas more difficult than it should be.
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Post by Dan_Utd on Dec 23, 2007 21:40:29 GMT
At times are attack was perfect and we were doing good to get at them, but other times it just seemed like nobody really cared, and were more concerned thinking about what they got for Christmas. Ronnie did good, to get us the first goal, and later to put away the penalty. And somebody needs to teach Kuszak how to kick the F-ing ball, everytime it came towards him it sailed off to the stands.
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Post by johnboy14 on Dec 23, 2007 22:04:04 GMT
If we had not of won today this thread would of been very different. It wasn't great and I understand you can't always play great but when you play crap at least admit so.
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Post by Red Yank on Dec 23, 2007 22:08:07 GMT
If we had not of won today this thread would of been very different. It wasn't great and I understand you can't always play great but when you play crap at least admit so. Well I agree with you on this one johnboy, but in the end we got the result but prior to the penalty I was pretty convinced it was going to end in a draw. I don't think that criticizing the team is negative unless it slagging players off harshly; crap performance or not it's three points.
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Post by Andrej7 on Dec 23, 2007 22:13:36 GMT
i will say if we play bad but we didnt, maybe lack of end product and finish but our defence wasnt the best today and kuszack was unrealiable but we take the three points today
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Post by Scott on Dec 23, 2007 22:29:04 GMT
If we had not of won today this thread would of been very different. It wasn't great and I understand you can't always play great but when you play crap at least admit so. It's not a question of admitting or not admitting anything. Believe it or not, people may have an opinion that is different to yours. That doesn't mean we're in denial or we won't face facts, it just means we looked at the game in a different way. Maybe my opinion will change when I get to watch the highlights, but on first hand account of being there, I thought we played some really good football today. I'm actually quite alarmed by the criticism the lads have faced. The attacking football was brilliant today. Defensively we were pretty poor, but fortunately, Everton were shit up front. Johnson and Yakubu might as well have not been playing. We played crap against Bolton, we were crap against Spurs at home earlier in the season.... I could go on. Today, with half our first choice XI missing (Van der Sar, Gary Neville, Rio Ferdinand, Owen Hargreaves, Paul Scholes - ALL who would be in the first team) we beat the "in form" team, and deservedly so. You think Everton deserved anything from the game? I certainly don't. We would have been robbed if it ended 1-1. How we got our winning goal is irrelevant. If Giggs wasn't top class and wasn't able to dance through their defence, maybe it would have finished 1-1, but he did, and it didn't.
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