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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Sept 3, 2013 12:01:15 GMT
Put it this way. If Guardiola had said "Get me this player, he's the only one I want." It would have happened.
The board, or whoever the fuck was in charge, didn't back the manager and the person who could have made the difference is little more than a Suit with a United crest on it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2013 12:01:47 GMT
If you think Moyes is head of the club and is actually at fault, theres the door, hope it slams you in the arse on the way out. Clown. oh my god. I don't want to waste time on such irrelevant thing but since you say i'm a clown i feel i'm obliged. 1. Clearly you must understand that with the head of the club I'm not claiming he's the chairman, it's ridiculous that this is the part you focus on. As manager he's represents a figurehead of the club who is the key person behind bringing the club to success and therefore he has great authority and power inside the club. He could have used his influence better, Ferguson would have not let things get this out of hand. 2. Which is why i said that he must share some of the blame. I didn't say he's the person at fault. I've seen that in other topics too, I fucking hate how you take a post and interpret it the way you find suitable instead of actually focussing on the point, that's the way children and people with not very high intelligence act. I interpret it as I read it. Which was nonsense. The point being you condescending idiot is that Moyes has very little influence other than who he wants, he doesnt decide how much is spent. Fergie had Gill to sort it out, you know some1 that had a clue what he was doing, Woodward doesnt so Moyes is at a disadvantage before he starts. Fuck sake |
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Post by muziq on Sept 3, 2013 12:02:37 GMT
If you think Moyes is head of the club and is actually at fault, theres the door, hope it slams you in the arse on the way out. Clown. oh my god. I don't want to waste time on such irrelevant thing but since you say i'm a clown i feel i'm obliged. 1. Clearly you must understand that with the head of the club I'm not claiming he's the chairman, it's ridiculous that this is the part you focus on. As manager he's represents a figurehead of the club who is the key person behind bringing the club to success and therefore he has great authority and power inside the club. He could have used his influence better, Ferguson would have not let things get this out of hand. 2. Which is why i said that he probably should share some of the blame. I didn't say he's the person at fault. I've seen that in other topics too, I fucking hate how you take a post and interpret it the way you find suitable instead of actually focussing on the point, that's the way children and people with not very high intelligence act.Irony |
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Post by NR7 on Sept 3, 2013 12:03:10 GMT
Humble request to the mods; Can we hide or even erase this whole thread? That's how fucking painful it's been.. Thinking about how events unfolded yest,my blood boils.. Going to take a while for all to get over this I reckon..
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Post by Rene Meulensteen on Sept 3, 2013 12:03:31 GMT
The Herrera deal faltered because we (Moyes) didn't think the release clause was right and thought that it should be lower than 36m Euros. Nevermind the fact the kid was willing to lay off his 6m bonuses to up the original bid to the release clause amount, Moyes or someone at the top didn't think it was worth it so I'm led to believe.
How it fucking took this long to fathom what the clause price was I shall never know, everyone and their auntie knew it a few days ago but it sounds like Moyes has been told to tighten the pursestrings a little and choose between Fellaini or Herrera as you can't have both.
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Post by Bestie on Sept 3, 2013 12:06:58 GMT
It will be locked and key thrown away and 'dropped' very soon. We're allowing time to vent.
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Post by reefer on Sept 3, 2013 12:10:01 GMT
If you think Moyes is head of the club and is actually at fault, theres the door, hope it slams you in the arse on the way out. Clown. oh my god. I don't want to waste time on such irrelevant thing but since you say i'm a clown i feel i'm obliged. 1. Clearly you must understand that with the head of the club I'm not claiming he's the chairman, it's ridiculous that this is the part you focus on. As manager he's represents a figurehead of the club who is the key person behind bringing the club to success and therefore he has great authority and power inside the club. He could have used his influence better, Ferguson would have not let things get this out of hand. 2. Which is why i said that he probably should share some of the blame. I didn't say he's the person at fault. I've seen that in other topics too, I fucking hate how you take a post and interpret it the way you find suitable instead of actually focussing on the point, that's the way children and people with not very high intelligence act. If your going to insist on comparing Moyes with SAF and what he would of done etc then your going to be one frustrated supporter. Moyes is Moyes and its going to be his way from now on..... Its completely irrelevant what SAF would of done. Moyes is NOT SAF..... |
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Post by NR7 on Sept 3, 2013 12:20:06 GMT
It will be locked and key thrown away and 'dropped' very soon. We're allowing time to vent. Thank goodness for that. Much appreciated |
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Post by henrik90 on Sept 3, 2013 12:23:49 GMT
Sure, I think most of us try to avoid using Ferguson as a yardstick to evaluate Moyes, but here I just went the easy road to make a point about the influence that managers can have.
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Post by Tatty on Sept 3, 2013 12:24:15 GMT
It will be locked and key thrown away and 'dropped' very soon. We're allowing time to vent. Already got a Summer 14 thread on deck... |
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Post by karthy on Sept 3, 2013 12:25:38 GMT
It will be locked and key thrown away and 'dropped' very soon. We're allowing time to vent. Think that it may not be a good idea mate, the venting is happening against each other than against the club and with all and sundry thoughts and rumors , feel we may actually loose peeps has someone is bound to cross the threshhold and say something quite unfortunate. The more time this exists the more the anger at what Our Club has been dragged into and it is only adding fuel to a fire than putting it down. |
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Post by Tatty on Sept 3, 2013 12:26:03 GMT
Sure, I think most of us try to avoid using Ferguson as a yardstick to evaluate Moyes, but here I just went the easy road to make a point about the influence that managers can have. Fair point, but Mourinho is oft cited as a power wielding manager, and he's been lumped with Shevchenko in the past. I think some people are over-estimating the power Moyes will have 10 weeks into a new job. |
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Post by karthy on Sept 3, 2013 12:29:09 GMT
BTW, off topic , What happened to Torres , Mata and Barry  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2013 12:30:15 GMT
Nothing, nothing, Everton?
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Post by karthy on Sept 3, 2013 12:32:57 GMT
GOOD, DAMN ,LUCKY.
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