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Post by tommyred on Jun 12, 2012 19:37:53 GMT
I don't really buy into those things to be honest. You need to be a certain type of person to pull it off.
Plus I'm kinda the same as jimbonda. I don't want to play some stupid game. I want a woman to like me for me. If it's difficult it's not right.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2012 23:09:23 GMT
Yeah agree with that. Seems a douch bag American thing to me, playing games, pretending to be something else, etc etc, just for a ride? If the books about getting your confidence up, and knowing how to approach a girl you like, or what to say when there's a lull in conversation, things like that, then it could be a handy read. But if it's just about "How to fuck girls!" then I'd give it a big no. There's more to life then just trying to pull, and you look like an absolute wanker if you just go from girl to girl to girl in a bar until one is finally drunk or desperate enough to say yes.
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Post by Bestie on Jun 12, 2012 23:19:19 GMT
go from girl to girl to girl Excuse me, but I happen to live an entirely happy 'romantic' life based on that exact principle! ;D
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Jun 13, 2012 5:30:55 GMT
Was just a bit of advice, make of it what you will, you'd be surprised what a bunch of normal guys can learn from another guy's tale. "you look like an absolute wanker if you just go from girl to girl to girl in a bar until one is finally drunk or desperate enough to say yes." Not at all what the book encourages, even the fact that you say a bar is off target as you're not able to talk to always verbally communicate in a bar setting as it's too loud, and women are often too drunk. You're either willing to take some of the knowledge n board or you're not, simples. It gives you a way to put the ball back in her court so to speak and reminds you that women can smell desperateness from a mile away. The one phrase I remember from the book, or at least I think it was from the book, is ''You're the prize." Another tip that I remember, that actually works spot on I've found is that, if you see a woman you're interested in and she's with a mate you don't really fancy (a bit of a minger) your best strategy is to actually focus your attention on the minger and give her brief acknowledgements. She just won't get it. I will say that every single one of the people I've met that have read this said it's helped them not only meet women they find attractive, but keep them as their inevitably attracted to a man they think has the ability to hit it off at random with any woman. Again, it was just some advice tom, if you happen to want to read it at some stage maybe it'll give you a bit of entertainment at least
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2012 6:09:29 GMT
Another tip that I remember, that actually works spot on I've found is that, if you see a woman you're interested in and she's with a mate you don't really fancy (a bit of a minger) your best strategy is to actually focus your attention on the minger and give her brief acknowledgements. She just won't get it.
While her friend you've been paying attention to all night and thinks she's finally getting a man to talk to her ahead of her more attractive mate, goes home feeling like complete shit when she realises it was just a ploy to get in her friends knickers? But not a douch baggy thing?
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Post by traffordbrown on Jun 13, 2012 8:21:35 GMT
Another tip that I remember, that actually works spot on I've found is that, if you see a woman you're interested in and she's with a mate you don't really fancy (a bit of a minger) your best strategy is to actually focus your attention on the minger and give her brief acknowledgements. She just won't get it.While her friend you've been paying attention to all night and thinks she's finally getting a man to talk to her ahead of her more attractive mate, goes home feeling like complete shit when she realises it was just a ploy to get in her friends knickers? But not a douch baggy thing? Sad, yes. But perhaps just a necessary casualty of an ongoing romantic war.
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Jun 13, 2012 8:34:35 GMT
Not necessarily daz, no-one said you make your actual approach or anything of the sort on the same evening, that would be a douchy, and frankly pretty naive thing to do. You keep your options open in the sense that when you do see one another again she'll not be expecting you to hang all over her. Attractive women, and women with muchos self-respect too, are used to guys trying too hard and they can see it coming from a distance.
It's all just dynamics daz, you might actually have a cracking evening with the minger and have much in common, in reality it's actually best not to linger and move off for a continuation of a night with your mates. That way you'll already come off as a guy who's not desperate at all and you just enjoy good conversation and meeting new people - which is most probably true, isn't it?
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Post by jimbonda on Jun 13, 2012 10:41:51 GMT
agree with jay, you can't be all over the one you like and ignore her mate, it's fucking rude for a start. but you don't have to give her the come-on or anything just give her some attention
i always chat to the mate when i like the girl, i'm a socialble person. at the gig on sat night i was chatting to her mate a bit but also in my favour was that she was sharing a joint with my 2 mates so me and this girl had some alone time [alone as in just me, her, a crowd of thousands and metallica]
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2012 22:36:07 GMT
Yeah agree that chatting to both is fine, don't need to focus all the attention on the girl you like. Maybe I was getting the wrong end of the stick thinking it was advocating blanking the girl you like and giving the come on to her ugly mate (well, not necessarily ugly, just not the one you want), just to piss the girl you like off and get her jealous so she feels that she does want you. If that happened to blokes we'd be pretty fucked off about it, some bird all over us all night then walks out the door with our mate!
But as I say, just paying equal attention to all the girls in any group, not making it obvious you're after a one in particular, then yeah, that's fine.
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Post by shrike59 on Jun 15, 2012 4:30:55 GMT
Hi ya Tommyred ,theres nothing wrong with you .You are just a bit shy.Unless you look like the elephant man theres thousands of girls out there for you.Keep taking it slow one will come along Just get out there.Online,job,church,starbucks,clubs,smallbars you know where to look.Get a nice haircut and some new clothes,shoes,good cologne. IsseyMiake is mine try it .If your job has advancemant go for it.Save money nice car and a nice pad etc. might be materialistic things but women like these things and it sure doesnt hurt.Women love to yack so listen to them they love that.Good luck it will happen!
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Post by traffordbrown on Jun 15, 2012 8:15:44 GMT
Unless you look like the elephant man theres thousands of girls out there for you. Bit harsh on the elephant man, that.
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Jun 15, 2012 9:49:08 GMT
Yeah, he was* a good bloke really.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2012 21:46:51 GMT
Just stay single mate, Women are wankers and nothing but. Do nothing but get into ur head then fuck it up.
Heed my warning.......They are wankers.
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Post by jimbonda on Jun 15, 2012 22:02:42 GMT
not all of them paul. i've been out with some really nice girls, well at least one of them was an absolute beaut. still talk to her now occasionally over email. was gutted when we split up but she's such a wonderful gal i'm happy that we haven't completely lost touch.
my most recent ex is a mixed bag. i still have people [randoms] that know her come up to me on the street, saying 'hi, i know you, you went out with k blah blah, she's an absolute cunt.' because to some she was and to others she's an angel.
overall i've been lucky, but then again i've only had a couple of long-ish term (2-3 year) relationships.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2012 22:41:16 GMT
not all of them paul. i've been out with some really nice girls, well at least one of them was an absolute beaut. still talk to her now occasionally over email. was gutted when we split up but she's such a wonderful gal i'm happy that we haven't completely lost touch. my most recent ex is a mixed bag. i still have people [randoms] that know her come up to me on the street, saying 'hi, i know you, you went out with k blah blah, she's an absolute cunt.' because to some she was and to others she's an angel. overall i've been lucky, but then again i've only had a couple of long-ish term (2-3 year) relationships. Granted not all, all perhaps one atm so im venting
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