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Post by Rustin Cohle on May 19, 2019 21:37:22 GMT
Gonna watch live at 2AM. Anyone else doing the same?
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2019 21:56:10 GMT
Gonna watch live at 2AM. Anyone else doing the same? Na I'll have time to watch it when I wake up later on without any spoilers tomorrow. Not been this excited to go to sleep since I was a kid at Christmas! |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2019 21:59:45 GMT
Yeah I'll be watching live. Spoilers get online way too fast.
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Post by dazjoe on May 20, 2019 3:22:12 GMT
There's always going to be some who didn't enjoy it, but I liked that as a last episode. Both good and bad/disappointing points.
Good:
Jon killing Dany. I said last week Arya to kill her, but thinking about it, how would she ever get close enough to her to do it? Even the faceless man route (which some had suggested) the dragon's clearly rely more on scent then sight, they get real close and sniff everyone before making their mind up; Drogon would, I imagine, have known it wasn't whoever's face she was wearing, and then it's goodnight Vienna.
Jon ending up back at the wall. He couldn't just stroll out as the new king after killing Dany. He had to face punishment for it. Yes, Jamie killed Aerys, but he had no supporters left at that point; Dany had the unsullied, the Dothraki, and as we saw, the Iron Islanders. "But she was mad!" Wasn't going to be enough for them to go "Yeah, fair point well made, all hail the king".
Jon and Ghost reunite! Yes! A lot of plus points for that.
Bran and his counsel. Yeah, I'll just about take Bran as king, I can't really think of anyone else I'd be happy to see have it. And Sam did try to basically introduce democracy and a prime minister instead of a king, but I quite liked that the show laughed that off and showed that they simply aren't ready for that yet.
Arya to head west. Yup, she can't just sit about and do not much now. You've built her up into something special, so she can't just be a lady, or a faceless man, or a member of the counsel, etc. Heading into uncharted waters for new exploration? That sounds about right.
Tyrion surviving. Killing Tyrion would have been a big no no. He had to live.
Bad:
Jon ending up back at the wall (I know). Yup, it's the best place to end his story, and the only way it could end to keep everyone happy. But why do they even need a nights watch anymore? Their whole purpose has gone. The army of the dead are no more. The free folk have been welcomed south and fought alongside them. Some are going back north and some will stay south, but you don't need this army watching the wall for their whole lives now. What are they watching/guarding? Oh, and who rebuild the bloody thing?
Arya magically standing besides Jon seconds after Dany walks away, and Arya was far, far away. How the fuck did she get past the thousands of people and travel that fast?
Bronn becoming Lord of Highgarden. Nope. He had to die. Didn't like his story arc.
The whole "Can Bran affect the past thing"? We were explicitly told that he couldn't, only for Ned to hear him back in the past when going to rescue Lyana. The whole point of that scene was "Fuck, hold on! He can affect what has happened! They can hear him. What could this mean?!" And, then it was never ever attempted or mentioned again.
Greyworm surviving. Yes, you lost the love of your life. You turned into a murderous twat. You slaughtered innocents. And you sail off to live the rest of your life. Fuck that, he needed to die.
All in all, a simply immense series, one of the greatest shows I've ever watched, period. People will pick it apart and not everyone will be happy, but so what. Christ, you must demand absolute, utter perfection if Game Of Thrones disappointed you. It'd be like your son signing for United and going on to score 252 goals for the club and your only reaction is "Pff. That's shit. Rooney scored more"
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Post by IRD17_Kaushik on May 20, 2019 4:18:36 GMT
I really don't know what to think about this. Few things that bothered me in the end.
1. Jon killed Dany and the unsullied and Dothraki just arrested him? They are fucking savages, wouldn't they just murder him as soon as they knew?
2. Electing the new King, wouldn't everyone just nominate themselves and ultimately ended up fighting each other?
3. Even if they are ok with Bran being the King, Sansa wanted Independent North and everyone was ok with that? Wouldn't they want to be Independent as well?
4. And what has actually made Bran think he should be the King. I really don't get that, his intentions are never explained very well.
Anyway end of one of the best shows. Thanks for all the entertainment over the years.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 4:43:31 GMT
Sansa couldn't even bend the knee to her own flesh and blood? Bitch! I joke. Branch getting to be King as an all seeing all knowing warg is very unusual and if anyone predicted that then they were very quiet about it!
It was nice that the Starks had as good an ending as possible, but it felt off to some degree. Like, I'm glad Arya didnt kill the dragon or something, but it was a colder ending for them that I expected.
I hoped for a bit more emotion in this episode. Outside of Tyrion finding his siblings and Brienne writing for Jamie and the niceness of the new small council formation, it didnt pluck as many heart strings as I expected. I also can't hide the fact that Danys death was mega anti climactic. As was Jon happily wandering around Kings landing and not being gutted by a Dothraki or something. Seemed weird!
Somehow Pod being alive and also in the Kings Guard did give me a good giggle! Get in Pod!
I'll watch it again as first viewing it felt slightly unsatisfying but it's been a rollercoaster of a show and I've loved almost every minute. |
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Post by Bestie on May 20, 2019 6:32:21 GMT
If my son got that close to Rooney's record and didn't break it I would be furious.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 9:28:23 GMT
Not a bad finale but following the general theme of the last 2 seasons, far from perfect. And the fact there's another Starbucks type incident but this time with a bottle of water shows a ridiculous level of ineptitude.
I love this show but the final season has just fallen flat. The cinematography has been unbelievable, some of the visuals even in this episode were spectacular but the writers have failed to deliver a cohesively written and satisfying finale to a great series.
It's all been rushed and left me underwhelmed.
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Post by redcase on May 20, 2019 10:42:24 GMT
Not a bad finale but following the general theme of the last 2 seasons, far from perfect. And the fact there's another Starbucks type incident but this time with a bottle of water shows a ridiculous level of ineptitude. I love this show but the final season has just fallen flat. The cinematography has been unbelievable, some of the visuals even in this episode were spectacular but the writers have failed to deliver a cohesively written and satisfying finale to a great series. It's all been rushed and left me underwhelmed. It's taken the all style no substance route. Pandering to the masses rather than sticking to what made it great . |
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Post by Rustin Cohle on May 20, 2019 11:09:36 GMT
Someone said, and I agree with, that Jon's ending is poetic and understandable; however, whilst if he became king I'd be pumped to rewatch, now I'm just kinda like 'eh.'
Bran being King is clearly the last big twist from George but it was a bit WTF. He's the character who missed a whole season because his story was too dull to show on screen...
Also, we never got any fucking payoff for Bran being able to alter time in the past. He does it with Hodor to realise his power, and then whispers to Ned, and then never uses it again. Really, really frustrating.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 11:27:24 GMT
Thought it was great. Not gonna let people bring me down. I think it's the most impressive thing ever put on tv and I enjoyed literally every minute of it.
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Post by Monty on May 20, 2019 11:46:14 GMT
The fact that Jon petting Ghost was the thing I'm happiest about says a lot...
I'd heard theories about Bran ending up on the throne, but I didn't think it would happen. I quite like that it ended that way, but I wish there were more episodes to set it up. It was so rushed, even more than the rest of the season.
I get that time constraints and having to wrap everything up made it necessary to kill Dany off early doors, but it was a bit underwhelming.
Where the fuck did all those Unsullied come from?
I'm convinced that the Starbucks cup was marketing and the water bottle is just them trying to convince everyone that it wasn't. "See everyone, we were stupid enough to do it twice, we're totally not trying to sell you Starbucks, ha ha"...
I'm not sure why the Night's Watch still exists or why people are still being sent there. The Wildlings are now allies, and the Others are destroyed. Who are the Night's Watch guarding against?
Over all it was fine. I didn't hate it. It is what it is. I wish HBO found new writers as soon as it was apparent D & D wanted out. I get why they didn't. If they brought in new showrunners and they were anything short of brilliant, HBO would have been crucified. At least this way D & D get most of the criticism.
There are a few unannounced spinoffs in the works. I am totally on board with one of them being Arya goes west. It looked like they might have been teasing that.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 11:50:44 GMT
Thought it was great. Not gonna let people bring me down. I think it's the most impressive thing ever put on tv and I enjoyed literally every minute of it. Visually it absolutely is and as far as storyline, character development and scripting goes as well I'd agree for the first 6 seasons but they've absolutely rushed the final 2 seasons IMO. This show needed a good few seasons more to finish in a satisfactory fashion.
Even read that George is disappointed by the ending and feels it's been rushed.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 12:04:34 GMT
I don't mind a lot of stuff that happened in the final episode, in fact I like most of it but the point is that I don't like how we got there.
They spent 6 seasons building an intricate and complex story beautifully, in which the pacing was virtually spot on throughout, only for the final 2 seasons to go.. BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG, FINISHED! That is literally how it feels to me.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2019 12:10:29 GMT
I don't mind a lot of stuff that happened in the final episode, in fact I like most of it but the point is that I don't like how we got there. They spent 6 seasons building an intricate and complex story beautifully, in which the pacing was virtually spot on throughout, only for the final 2 seasons to go.. BANG, BANG, BANG, BANG, FINISHED! That is literally how it feels to me. Doesn't feel like that to me, it always felt to me like the show was so slow it would be impossible to maintain that snail pace. It was true. The show was so good in part because they could spend two seasons having Jamie Lannister pottering around the country side. That could not be maintained. They finally changed to tv show pace. |
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