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Post by jimbonda on Aug 19, 2012 12:58:43 GMT
Wilshere = 1/2 a Ronaldo?? if his fitness wasn't in doubt i'd pay 40 mil for him without question. he'd be the driving force we've missed in there since keane.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2012 17:58:54 GMT
I would pay it for him too, he is quite brilliant.
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Post by Kamilo on Aug 20, 2012 12:20:29 GMT
Why Alex Song is Overated
If you are a member of an Alexandre Song fan club, you should click out of this article right now as the next 700 words will not be pleasant reading. If you are an Arsenal supporter, please do stay because this feature may just cheer you up following a frustrating past seven days.
The above paragraph will probably sound like a paradox because over the last few years, Song has developed into a real fan favorite at the Emirates. So much so that in 2011-12 he finished second behind Robin van Persie in Arsenal's Player of the Season award, as voted for by the club's fans.
Arsenal.com's congratulations to Song exalted: "Over the years, Alex has been an essential anchor at the base of Arsenal’s midfield, providing defensive cover for a free-flowing side committed to attack."
While official websites are naturally positive towards their own staff, never could an analysis be so wide of the mark. The hard truth is that Alex Song is incapable of anchoring the midfield and incapable of providing defensive cover. In the last four campaigns, Arsenal has conceded a whopping 170 league goals. In every one of these seasons (except 2009-10 when Tottenham shipped the same amount), Arsenal have let in more strikes than every other team in the Premier League top four.
The main reason for this is not a shaky back five or Arsene Wenger's tactical naivety – even if both are very significant factors – it is because Song cannot protect his defense.
In modern football where you can count on one hand the number of genuinely world-class stoppers, controlling and managing the midfield is the best form of defense. This is why teams with feeble back lines have still been relatively successful. An example is Netherlands' journey to the 2010 World Cup final, where Mark van Bommel and Nigel de Jong expertly shielded a modest quartet of Van der Wiel, Heitinga, Mathijsen and Van Bronckhorst.
Song is too undisciplined to be an anchorman. When his teammates are in possession, he can't resist the urge to join in offensively – thus vacating his post and leaving his side open to punishing counterattacks. When the opposition has the ball, Song's spatial awareness, positioning and reading of the game are poor. These are skills that cannot be taught, you either have them or you don't. And Song's sluggish speed and acceleration prevent him from recovering situations that he fails to foresee.
There are too many games to recount where Arsenal has been fatally exploited due to gaping holes in Song's territory. The most high-profile recent example is February's 4-0 Champions League pummeling in Italy at the hands of AC Milan.
Supporters cite Song's 14 assists last season as evidence of his quality, but the midfielder's job at Arsenal was to prevent goals, not create them. Rogerio Ceni has scored more than 100 times for Sao Paulo, but that doesn't make him a great goalkeeper.
Barcelona's signing of Song is certainly a peculiar one. A much over-looked aspect of the Blaugrana philosophy is their ferocious pressing tactics. Not only is Song slow and cumbersome in closing down opponents, he is often accused of being lazy too. This will not be tolerated in Catalunya if he is to be a success.
The 24-year-old does not move the ball on quickly and seems ill-suited to the Blaugrana's fast one-touch, tiki-taka, pass-and-move game. While Song is certainly a better passer than Javier Mascherano, there are concerns that just like the Argentine he may struggle executing the short and sharp triangles with Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets, Messi and Co.
Song seems ill-suited to the Blaugrana's fast one-touch, tiki-taka, pass-and-move game. He may struggle executing short and sharp triangles
Mascherano was subsequently shifted into defense in an attempt to cover for the persistent injuries to captain Carles Puyol – and he has not looked back since. There is every possibility Song could also be used at the back, but this would be far from advisable in a big game against a Real Madrid, Bayern Munich or Manchester City. In his past outings in defense, Song has looked awkward and insecure.
Song will start his Barcelona career as a squad player, and will certainly deepen a rather thin senior roster. But 19 million euros is a lot of money to spend on a bench warmer, and Tito Vilanova – who personally requested the midfielder – is leaving himself open to criticism.
While Vilanova's predecessor Pep Guardiola made a few bad signings himself – Dmytro Chygrynskiy at 25m euros the most infamous - it is hard to imagine Guardiola ever sanctioning a move for such an overrated and ill-suited player as Song. Not for the first time in a transfer dealing between Arsenal and Barcelona, it is the English side who will get the better side of the bargain.
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Post by arevans18 on Aug 20, 2012 12:28:49 GMT
Decent well written article, don't agree with it though.
Why hasn't he pointed out the diabolical defenders that Arsenal have had in the time, Squilaci, Mertesacker, Silvestre, Santos, Clichy, Jenkinson. Players who either aren't suited to this league, and are absolutely diabolical. Blaming one player, for their defensive frailties seems harsh, especially when he's deployed next to the likes of Rosicky who's clearly an Attacking midfielder transformed into a deeper player. Added to this the fact they can't get a decent keeper.....but let's blame Song!
I blame Arsene's diabolical nature in the transfer market when it comes to defenders and keepers in recent years. Song would've been brilliant in our midfield next to Carrick.
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Post by Tatty on Aug 20, 2012 13:03:01 GMT
Where's this notion that Scezeny isn't a good 'keeper come from?
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Post by ginger18legend on Aug 20, 2012 13:13:15 GMT
Rogerio Ceni has scored more than 100 times for Sao Paulo, but that doesn't make him a great goalkeeper. Hell yeah it does!! Agree with arevans - don't agree with the article. Song is actually pretty decent. Its probably written by one of those Arsenal fanboys who decide to turn on their best players after they leave. In fact, if things don't work out for him at Barca I'd have him as one of our top transfer targets to replace Carrick in two years' time.
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Post by jimbonda on Aug 20, 2012 14:33:21 GMT
haven't read the article but cos i like repeating myself. song is a decent player, certainly not a top player, nowhere near in fact. i'm not interested in seeing him in a united shirt. arsenal have done a decent bit of business on him and if they could keep diaby and wilshere fit they'd not really miss him.
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Post by karthy on Aug 20, 2012 14:46:57 GMT
Arsenal sold Song because he is Lazy, Slow and has attitude problem-- well if so WTF was he doing in your squad in the first place,should have been offloaded long ago.
I am no great fan of Goons but this thing everytime they sell a player is becoming ridiculous. on the other hand wonder if Wilshere can run down his contract so we can get him also.
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