fergieuk1
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Post by fergieuk1 on Aug 26, 2012 19:11:01 GMT
I'd give him this season, at least. In fact, until he has two years on his contract left, if that's a different time. As jim says, see how he reacts and works with genuine class around him. You`ll give him one more season to what ? better what he has done the previous season in scoring 35 goals get real eh He is our 4th all time goal scorer at the age of 26 , does not matter how well he plays game in game out, its what he provides to our team that counts and what he has provided is 181 goals !!!! |
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Post by jimbonda on Aug 26, 2012 19:41:13 GMT
Rooney has got easily 5/6 years ahead , hasnt even reached his full potential he still got some maturing to do .... And yet fans want him gone .....Is this real life?  ? they do? |
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Post by ScholesEvilTwin on Aug 26, 2012 19:45:18 GMT
Chica made less of an impact last season, than the previous title winning season. Don't recall many threads questioning his form and debating if he should be out the door. Because he hasnt thrown a strop in the past and we dont pay him 200-odd grand a week to be out of shape maybe  |
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Post by reddub on Aug 26, 2012 19:58:53 GMT
Chica made less of an impact last season, than the previous title winning season. Don't recall many threads questioning his form and debating if he should be out the door. Because he hasnt thrown a strop in the past and we dont pay him 200-odd grand a week to be out of shape maybe I was being sarcastic..!!  |
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Post by ScholesEvilTwin on Aug 26, 2012 20:18:52 GMT
Because he hasnt thrown a strop in the past and we dont pay him 200-odd grand a week to be out of shape maybe I was being sarcastic..!! Fair enough  |
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Post by reddub on Aug 26, 2012 20:24:09 GMT
Nice one, SET! #thumb#
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fergieuk1
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Post by fergieuk1 on Aug 26, 2012 21:01:57 GMT
Rooney has got easily 5/6 years ahead , hasnt even reached his full potential he still got some maturing to do .... And yet fans want him gone .....Is this real life? ? they do? It seems apparent some do yes , if not they've got a very funny way of showing it ?! The funniest thing is these fans complain about his form , attitude , approach to the game etc. and yet these are the same fans that are agreeing with the media and are basically getting on his back after 2 games into the season ,a mean bloody 2 games in and he`s under the spot light already seriously no wonder he can seem stroppy ! as i previously said he may not currently be producing the youthful enthusiasm he used to have he still wants nothing but success at the club and he proves that by his goal tally |
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Post by reddub on Aug 26, 2012 21:05:37 GMT
In my opinion, Wayne Rooney will be with us for the long term.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2012 21:40:48 GMT
In my opinion, Wayne Rooney will be with us for the long term. Exactly and I for one will be behind him the whole way. People expect too much. He scored 35 goals last season but that's not good enough they want 50 just in the league followed by 10 hat tricks in the champions league otherwise hes not fit to wear the shirt. Loads of utter bollocks if you ask me. Within the next few seasons he will smash the all time united scoring record. ( yes I know hes shite isnt he). There no denying he wont do it. The good thing about Wazza is its not all about scoring for him, he does so much more. |
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Post by reddub on Aug 26, 2012 21:48:42 GMT
Paul, as stated, yeah he's had a dip in form, etc, etc etc...but he's not a robot who puts in majestic displays every game and scores crackers every game like the goal against City every week.
In my opinion we're lucky we have a player of Rooney's ability in the squad. Heck, we should be grateful.
If we got rid of him tomorrow, a rake of the top clubs would be after him.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2012 21:52:14 GMT
Paul, as stated, yeah he's had a dip in form, etc, etc etc...but he's not a robot who puts in majestic displays every game and scores crackers every game like the goal against City every week. In my opinion we're lucky we have a player of Rooney's ability in the squad. Heck, we should be grateful. If we got rid of him tomorrow, a rake of the top clubs would be after him. Exactly. |
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Post by reddub on Aug 26, 2012 22:08:21 GMT
I'd love to know who we'll be bringing in, instead of chubby, zero form, Wayne Rooney?
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Post by fletchabey on Aug 26, 2012 22:17:01 GMT
I think Rooney has become easier to criticise for the majority of fans ever since his little saga of 2 years back. His form ebbs and flows a bit, always has, but he delivered only a couple of goals less the RVP last year (literally 2 I think, but haven't checked).
Its an interesting situation now he could conceivably lose his 'first name on the sheet' status. We'll have to see what reaction we get out of him now he has some true competition. Its great for the club as we wont be as reliant on him to perform and we have the depth, but any suggestion of shifting him on is just shooting ourselves in the foot.
The injury though may not have come at to bad a time. He wont miss too many games and it means we wont begin chopping and changing and trying to find a way to get him, RVP and Kagawa (which may be difficult and sub-optimal). After that though challenge is on him regain that form and I'm sure Fergie will happily have that mind game with him. My gut feeling is it will bring out the best in him.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2012 23:16:03 GMT
Rooney's a complicated character isn't he?
His game isn't the same as it was, he no longer bullies defenders physically, indeed you see him pushed off the ball with ease at times, that never happened when he was a teenager. He rarely runs at defenders anymore, just as an example, remember the England France game of Euro 2004? He terrified Gallas that day, just butchered him with energy and power and enthusiasim. Would never do that to a centre half today.
He used to relish twatting the ball from 30 yards, now he either passes wide or tries a stupid FIFA chip.
However in 2010 and 2012 he scored about 70 goals, in 2 seasons, with the 2011 season in between, and we all know what happened that year. Any striker capable of scoring 35 goals a season is a bloody useful commodity to have. And it's not like he's just a poacher, he continues to rack up the assists as well, in a regular season we could get 45 goals through Rooney (scoring and assisting) so it's incredibly harsh to criticise that.
The whole "He hates sharing the limelight" is bullshit in my opinion, he shared it with Ronaldo and didn't seem to have any problem with that, and slagged the club off for not signing any top drawer players (whether that was a ploy, or excuse, who really knows). He has looked a lot more jaded over the last couple of years, maybe this is why, because he has grown so weary of having to carry United and England on a weekly basis, and then get slagged off when things don't go to plan.
RVP coming in might just take a huge burden off his shoulders, sure he'll still be slated whenever England lose, but for United, he has another world class striker to score and assist now, he can go back to just playing his game knowing that if things don't come off, it's cool. We have Robin to pick up the pieces.
Either way, he gets stick over his antics of 2 years ago, but must know he has brought that 100% on himself, and besides, I can't think of too many other players at the club who would be welcomed back and have his name chanted at OT so quick after the furore died down as he did, if it was Nani, for example, who did what Rooney did, he'd still be receiving abuse from the crowds today.
Hopefully he gets fit again, see's the team performing perfectly well without him, including smashing the scum in his last game out injured, and is able to come back with no pressure and get smiling and playing his game again.
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Post by majorred on Aug 26, 2012 23:16:26 GMT
You're right Fletch, he is too easy a target now. I don't buy too much into the strop, at the time his head wasn't right. He was caught shagging that tart and his agent was no doubt advising a move abroad to get out of the headlines and save his marriage (and pocket himself a few bob). Plus, he changed his mind and apologised which should have been enough to put it to bed at the time.
In my opinion he is still our best player when his head is screwed on, and to be fair it usually is. I can live with his dips in form now and again because when we have really needed him, he has produced. If there is any truth in what Custis is saying I think Sir Alex needs his head looked at but I'm quite confident that is not the case. I thought the manager was going to cry in his press conference when Rooney told him he wanted out 2 years ago, I'm pretty sure an evening meal with Darron Gibson and a bad game at Everton has convinced him to sell.
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