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Post by _ on Feb 25, 2015 13:18:55 GMT
Well done lads I read the other day that they may get Test status  |
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Post by IRD17_Kaushik on Feb 25, 2015 13:32:47 GMT
Well played Ireland, the best match so far in this World Cup.
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Post by _ on Feb 25, 2015 13:42:52 GMT
Well played Ireland, the best match so far in this World Cup. Not too sure how strong UAE are these days but hopefully the lads can progress and beat some top class opposition like they have in the past On the Test Status thing - it may actually restore my faith and and I'll be able to watch again without thinking every mistake could be bent Obviously only if the lads are playing England or Australia - there will always be doubts about anyone else they play |
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Post by CaajScot on Feb 25, 2015 13:45:55 GMT
Well done lads I read the other day that they may get Test status I hope they do, they deserve it.  ICC rankings for Tests, ODIs and Twenty20ICC Test Championship 10 January 2015 South Africa Australia England Pakistan New Zealand Sri Lanka India West Indies Bangladesh Zimbabwe ICC ODI Championship 24 February 2015 Australia India South Africa Sri Lanka New Zealand England Pakistan West Indies Bangladesh Zimbabwe Ireland Afghanistan ICC Twenty20 Championship 14 January 2015 Sri Lanka India Pakistan Australia South Africa West Indies New Zealand England Ireland Bangladesh Netherlands Afghanistan Zimbabwe Scotland |
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Post by IRD17_Kaushik on Feb 25, 2015 13:51:49 GMT
Ireland certainly deserve Test status, its not like a one lucky day where they have beaten a stronger team. They do it in every tournament they play. And playing test matches will improve their Cricket.
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Post by _ on Feb 25, 2015 13:58:50 GMT
Ireland certainly deserve Test status, its not like a one lucky day where they have beaten a stronger team. They do it in every tournament they play. And playing test matches will improve their Cricket. They will certainly improve if they play Irishmen I'd hate for them to go down the England route and fast track a load of third rate Aussies and South Africans - give the country pride in "their team" Jeebus - are W Indies that bad these days? - sad to see after growing up watching the great players of the 70s and 80s  |
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Post by IRD17_Kaushik on Feb 25, 2015 14:15:00 GMT
Ireland certainly deserve Test status, its not like a one lucky day where they have beaten a stronger team. They do it in every tournament they play. And playing test matches will improve their Cricket. They will certainly improve if they play Irishmen I'd hate for them to go down the England route and fast track a load of third rate Aussies and South Africans - give the country pride in "their team" Jeebus - are W Indies that bad these days? - sad to see after growing up watching the great players of the 70s and 80s I know there are South African born players in the English team, do they have Aussies? anyway why do you say 'third rate Aussies and South Africans'. I actually feel that South African born players have done well for England in the recent past, players like Trott, KP, Andrew Strauss have done so well. When they were playing England were no. 1 in the test rankings if I remember correctly. There is something wrong with West Indian cricket, they still have a lot of individually good players but when it comes to a team they just dont click and their never ending problem with the Board hasn't helped them either. |
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Post by CaajScot on Feb 25, 2015 14:29:24 GMT
They will certainly improve if they play Irishmen I'd hate for them to go down the England route and fast track a load of third rate Aussies and South Africans - give the country pride in "their team" Jeebus - are W Indies that bad these days? - sad to see after growing up watching the great players of the 70s and 80s I know there are South African born players in the English team, do they have Aussies? anyway why do you say 'third rate Aussies and South Africans'. I actually feel that South African born players have done well for England in the recent past, players like Trott, KP, Andrew Strauss have done so well. When they were playing England were no. 1 in the test rankings if I remember correctly. There is something wrong with West Indian cricket, they still have lot a individually good players but when it comes to a team they just dont click and their never ending problem with the Board hasn't helped them either. It's all too do with money and contracts nowadays buddy. Once upon a time the likes of Cricket and Rugby Union you were just proud to be picked and play for your country, money was not an issue. They still had work after the matches, an 8 hour or more shift to earn their bread & butter. Nowadays they get payed, flash cars, TV work etc too swell their bank balances and agents who get them the best deals. They cannot think for themselves, agents do their thinking for them. |
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Post by _ on Feb 25, 2015 14:35:42 GMT
Sorry - was under the impression Prior was an Aussie .. just another South African A few surprising names - I know a lot were sons of British citizens working in the diplomatic service and other interests when we had an Empire The ex-wife was born in Copenhagen when her old man was vice-consul there but she's still a Brit What i don't like is spotting talent abroad and then manipulating immigration and employment laws to fast track citizenship -yes, several have done very well but I'd rather see proper Brits playing and not plastic ones Same has happened in Rugby IIRC Re: West Indies - I saw a documentary maybe 20 years ago that was about young West Indians being attracted by the money in basketball compared to cricket - my feeling is that to combat that young players were cossetted and cock sucked so much to keep them in the game there became a culture of big headed cuntheads who maybe thought about money, sponsorship and publicity more than hard work - this led to clashes within the team because of jealousy and that was a recipe for disaster - wasn't there a tour scrapped recently because of in-fighting? It's so sad because they used to be the best by far and they also entertained - maybe Lara was the last true great West Indian cricketer we'll ever see and that is heartbreaking IMO - I'm sure the likes of Greenidge, Richards, Lloyd, Holding (and about 3 dozen more) are sickened by what has gone on recently |
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Post by IRD17_Kaushik on Feb 25, 2015 14:36:27 GMT
I know there are South African born players in the English team, do they have Aussies? anyway why do you say 'third rate Aussies and South Africans'. I actually feel that South African born players have done well for England in the recent past, players like Trott, KP, Andrew Strauss have done so well. When they were playing England were no. 1 in the test rankings if I remember correctly. There is something wrong with West Indian cricket, they still have lot a individually good players but when it comes to a team they just dont click and their never ending problem with the Board hasn't helped them either. It's all too do with money and contracts nowadays buddy. Once upon a time the likes of Cricket and Rugby Union you were just proud to be picked and play for your country, money was not an issue. They still had work after the matches, an 8 hour or more shift to earn their bread & butter. Nowadays they get payed, flash cars, TV work etc too swell their bank balances and agents who get them the best deals. They cannot think for themselves, agents do their thinking for them. I couldn't agree more, the passion for the game is missing. I can sense the passion for the game only in Ashes and World Cup, thats the reason why I dont watch many Cricket matches these days. |
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Post by _ on Feb 25, 2015 14:45:07 GMT
It's all too do with money and contracts nowadays buddy. Once upon a time the likes of Cricket and Rugby Union you were just proud to be picked and play for your country, money was not an issue. They still had work after the matches, an 8 hour or more shift to earn their bread & butter. Nowadays they get payed, flash cars, TV work etc too swell their bank balances and agents who get them the best deals. They cannot think for themselves, agents do their thinking for them. I couldn't agree more, the passion for the game is missing. I can sense the passion for the game only in Ashes and World Cup, thats the reason why I dont watch many Cricket matches these days. Not only passion but PRIDE as well - how can you have pride in playing for England when you were born in and spent your first 23/24 years in South Africa? |
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Post by IRD17_Kaushik on Feb 25, 2015 14:46:55 GMT
Sorry - was under the impression Prior was an Aussie .. just another South African A few surprising names - I know a lot were sons of British citizens working in the diplomatic service and other interests when we had an Empire The ex-wife was born in Copenhagen when her old man was vice-consul there but she's still a Brit What i don't like is spotting talent abroad and then manipulating immigration and employment laws to fast track citizenship -yes, several have done very well but I'd rather see proper Brits playing and not plastic ones Same has happened in Rugby IIRC Fair enough, Everyone will want their own players representing the Country. Never knew some of the names mentioned were non-English. |
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Post by CaajScot on Feb 25, 2015 14:54:45 GMT
It's all too do with money and contracts nowadays buddy. Once upon a time the likes of Cricket and Rugby Union you were just proud to be picked and play for your country, money was not an issue. They still had work after the matches, an 8 hour or more shift to earn their bread & butter. Nowadays they get payed, flash cars, TV work etc too swell their bank balances and agents who get them the best deals. They cannot think for themselves, agents do their thinking for them. I couldn't agree more, the passion for the game is missing. I can sense the passion for the game only in Ashes and World Cup, thats the reason why I dont watch many Cricket matches these days. Athletics will eventually go down that road sooner or later. You get a lot of young athletes nowadays that have a 9-5 job but if they get selected to represent their countries at the Olympic Games, Commonwealth Games, World or European Athletic Games they have to try and get time off work and look for sponsorship to help them out. Some of the big athletic stars today heave TV deals and advertising deals that pay them so they do not have a problem money wise. |
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Post by _ on Feb 25, 2015 15:02:37 GMT
Sorry - was under the impression Prior was an Aussie .. just another South African A few surprising names - I know a lot were sons of British citizens working in the diplomatic service and other interests when we had an Empire The ex-wife was born in Copenhagen when her old man was vice-consul there but she's still a Brit What i don't like is spotting talent abroad and then manipulating immigration and employment laws to fast track citizenship -yes, several have done very well but I'd rather see proper Brits playing and not plastic ones Same has happened in Rugby IIRC Fair enough, Everyone will want their own player representing the Country. Never knew some of the names mentioned were non-English. Most were 100% English - just born in other countries - it's only been since the 80s when all the South Africans came over because SA were banned from international sport - fair enough in the day because most of them should have been playing top class cricket - but SA and Zimbawe has teams now so it shouldn't be happening - maybe the SA and Zimbabwe boards need to do something to actually keep hold of their young talent? I don't see any other countries having the sort of influx of foreigners as England playing for their national teams* *EDIT: I realise some people may take that as a racist comment about foreigners taking British jobs - not intended to be that - just a concern that young British talent is not being developed because the cash is spent to attract these "stars" from abroad - we potentially have our own stars who will end up working in call centres rather than representing their country FFS Even village cricket has an overseas player quota these days |
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Post by IRD17_Kaushik on Feb 25, 2015 15:07:54 GMT
I couldn't agree more, the passion for the game is missing. I can sense the passion for the game only in Ashes and World Cup, thats the reason why I dont watch many Cricket matches these days. Athletics will eventually go down that road sooner or later. You get a lot of young athletes nowadays that have a 9-5 job but if they get selected to represent their countries at the Olympic Games, Commonwealth Games, World or European Athletic Games they have to try and get time off work and look for sponsorship to help them out. Some of the big athletic stars today heave TV deals and advertising deals that pay them so they do not have a problem money wise. Dont the Government of the respective Countries pay enough for the athletes for representing the Country in Olympic, Commonwealth Games etc? I thought its only hard until you get to represent the Country after that it gets easy. |
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