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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2014 11:00:23 GMT
Imagine if we could somehow get Cleverley (young, United-raised, takes a lot of stick because no-one 'can see what he brings beyond running') to match the kind of step up that Fletch gave us, seemingly from nowhere according to many. I was thinking along those lines. I think with Tom right now, he is trying way way to hard to impress. He needs to relax and just do his thing and not what people (press and fans) expect him to do, those things will come in time. Its almost as if he needs to step back to go forward if that makes any bloody sense  and thats where Fletch can guide him. Shit! I think clevers is going across and back enough!  |
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Post by johnboy14 on Jan 12, 2014 12:24:36 GMT
Imagine if we could somehow get Cleverley (young, United-raised, takes a lot of stick because no-one 'can see what he brings beyond running') to match the kind of step up that Fletch gave us, seemingly from nowhere according to many. I was thinking along those lines. I think with Tom right now, he is trying way way to hard to impress. He needs to relax and just do his thing and not what people (press and fans) expect him to do, those things will come in time. Its almost as if he needs to step back to go forward if that makes any bloody sense and thats where Fletch can guide him. Cleverley's problem is he doesn't know what to do with the ball quick enough before he gets it. You watch top midfield players they never stop looking about, if you know where everyone is then it easier to make better passes. Its pretty simple but if your looking at the ball all the time then you will never know whats happening around you. Thats how scholes had so much time on the ball he knew where the space was and he knew where everyone else was and 9 times out of 10 knew which pass to make before he got the ball. He needs to go away and work on his game. You need a good football brain to play central midfield. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2014 12:42:20 GMT
I wrote him off coming back to play for United, extremely glad that he has. He improved a lot as a footballer since he was called in to the side, and found his role. He probably wouldn't have seen much action in the old United midfields but is especially important considering our current collection of midfielders.
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Post by NR7 on Jan 12, 2014 12:57:49 GMT
Have I so underrated his passing?  Maybe it's been that long or his hassling, harrying role but never expected some of the balls he played. What a man. What an inspiration to all athletes. Massive respect. He should be involved with the club in some capacity post United career. |
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Post by Bestie on Jan 12, 2014 13:01:58 GMT
I was thinking along those lines. I think with Tom right now, he is trying way way to hard to impress. He needs to relax and just do his thing and not what people (press and fans) expect him to do, those things will come in time. Its almost as if he needs to step back to go forward if that makes any bloody sense and thats where Fletch can guide him. Cleverley's problem is he doesn't know what to do with the ball quick enough before he gets it. You watch top midfield players they never stop looking about, if you know where everyone is then it easier to make better passes. Its pretty simple but if your looking at the ball all the time then you will never know whats happening around you. Thats how scholes had so much time on the ball he knew where the space was and he knew where everyone else was and 9 times out of 10 knew which pass to make before he got the ball. He needs to go away and work on his game. You need a good football brain to play central midfield. He had that though, a couple of years ago I remember us talking on here about how good he was at always looking up and around him. That's gone for some reason. EDIT: As for Fletch's passing, I said ages ago he was a cracking passer of the ball and none of us had realised. |
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Post by king nothing on Jan 12, 2014 19:50:09 GMT
I always maintained that if Scholes needed more than two touches generally we'd be playing shit. That's what I love about watching Scholes first touch control, second touch pass it. Simple but devastating football.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2014 19:58:04 GMT
Cleverley's problem is he doesn't know what to do with the ball quick enough before he gets it. You watch top midfield players they never stop looking about, if you know where everyone is then it easier to make better passes. Its pretty simple but if your looking at the ball all the time then you will never know whats happening around you. Thats how scholes had so much time on the ball he knew where the space was and he knew where everyone else was and 9 times out of 10 knew which pass to make before he got the ball. He needs to go away and work on his game. You need a good football brain to play central midfield. He had that though, a couple of years ago I remember us talking on here about how good he was at always looking up and around him. That's gone for some reason. EDIT: As for Fletch's passing, I said ages ago he was a cracking passer of the ball and none of us had realised. Fletcher was an all round cracking player. I knew how badly we'd miss him. He's proving to be a bit special with the way he's come back. That shouldn't happen at the top level. |
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Post by king nothing on Jan 12, 2014 20:01:05 GMT
He had that though, a couple of years ago I remember us talking on here about how good he was at always looking up and around him. That's gone for some reason. EDIT: As for Fletch's passing, I said ages ago he was a cracking passer of the ball and none of us had realised. Fletcher was an all round cracking player. I knew how badly we'd miss him. He's proving to be a bit special with the way he's come back. That shouldn't happen at the top level. Totally agree its a sign of how good he is that he's slotted straight in. |
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Post by johnboy14 on Jan 13, 2014 18:18:42 GMT
Cleverley's problem is he doesn't know what to do with the ball quick enough before he gets it. You watch top midfield players they never stop looking about, if you know where everyone is then it easier to make better passes. Its pretty simple but if your looking at the ball all the time then you will never know whats happening around you. Thats how scholes had so much time on the ball he knew where the space was and he knew where everyone else was and 9 times out of 10 knew which pass to make before he got the ball. He needs to go away and work on his game. You need a good football brain to play central midfield. He had that though, a couple of years ago I remember us talking on here about how good he was at always looking up and around him. That's gone for some reason. EDIT: As for Fletch's passing, I said ages ago he was a cracking passer of the ball and none of us had realised. Fletcher keeps it simple. Keeping it simple can be as devastating as any hollywood ball that comes off. Fletchers fittness impresses me alot and its testament to his professionalism, after the length of time he's been out he looked the fittest player in midfield against Swansea. |
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Post by SAF_Legend on Feb 6, 2014 2:50:39 GMT
Man United's Darren Fletcher explains ulcerative colitis illness www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26060048At the height of his illness the Scot was barely able to leave his own home, but he never lost hope of resuming his career.
"But I always had the belief that I'd be back playing. Although doctors and specialists made me aware there was a real possibility that I would never play again, I never got into that mindset.
"If I was to accept that then I might not be sitting here today. Although I was prepared to stop playing for the greater good of my health, I was fortunate to find out that playing football wasn't making me ill.
"I was able to come through that and to be back playing football is a really nice moment, something I'm really enjoying.
"But I can't just settle for being happy to be back and being a bit-part player - I want to be playing every game, being an important part of the team, playing for Scotland, winning trophies and achieving success.
"I've definitely got a mindset of making up for lost time."----------------------------------------------------------------------------- What an inspiration. |
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Post by _ on Feb 6, 2014 2:58:53 GMT
Shitting 30 times a day. Poor bastard.
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Post by _ on Feb 9, 2014 13:42:14 GMT
Actually Colitis is a lot more serious than just 'shitting 30 times a day'. It's mostly irregular and unpredictable discharges of blood and intestine. There are also the psychological effects not just from constant discomfort but severe bouts of pain. It destroys careers especially in people aged 19-25 who are at university or just beginning a job. It causes a spiral of problems that few patients can cope with. Chronic sufferers are in danger of cancers of the bowl and related areas. Colitis ruins lives; it can start and end without any indication but doctors are unable to clear it properly. I am very pleased for Fletcher having seen how Colitis affected a relative and students of mine who were less fortunate with their treatment. However, given that pressure and stress are the major reasons for making Colitis worse I am not altogether sure he should be captain of a team.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 1:30:40 GMT
Thanks very much Fletcher. Hope to see him back here as a coach. Great servant to the club, won us all over with his hard work and scoring goals on the big occasion. A genuine "big game" player. Hopefully he stays well and helps the Baggies beat a few of our rivals  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 2:34:08 GMT
If Fletcher didn't get sick we'd have won more. He was the gaping hole in midfield we were missing.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 2:52:09 GMT
I was gutted Hargreaves didn't work out as I thought he was exactly what we needed. Fletcher did a great job to plug that gap
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