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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2013 19:53:36 GMT
Sorry what are you having a laugh? He was very average and his performance got covered up purely because of the goal. Touch was poor on and gave the ball away on multiple occasions. Maybe i was watching a different game but i thought he was very good? making the most of possession and working hard to bully the opposition on defense. I'll be honest I thought he was quite good. A lot of people slate him if he isn't scoring or having a MOTM every week but he was nowhere near as bad as some were making him out to be. |
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Post by SAF_Legend on Mar 6, 2013 21:12:50 GMT
Thing about Rooney is - he had the potential to be a game changer type of player, but I think he didn't quite / hasn't reached that potential yet. Yes, he CAN change a game every now and again - especially when he's on hot form - but otherwise, his first touch, speed and dribbling skills aren't quite up there to be considered as such.
Rooney's best assets which I think are of tremendous value to us, is his utility, work ethic and passing vision. People might scrunch at these skill sets, but it's what keeps the team ticking. He's a great asset, one we cannot afford to lose and not replace.
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Post by alt on Mar 6, 2013 23:39:22 GMT
Thing about Rooney is - he had the potential to be a game changer type of player, but I think he didn't quite / hasn't reached that potential yet. Yes, he CAN change a game every now and again - especially when he's on hot form - but otherwise, his first touch, speed and dribbling skills aren't quite up there to be considered as such. Rooney's best assets which I think are of tremendous value to us, is his utility, work ethic and passing vision. People might scrunch at these skill sets, but it's what keeps the team ticking. He's a great asset, one we cannot afford to lose and not replace. That top paragraph sums it up pretty well. I think he often looks labored and I still think a lot of the problems are down to his fitness. Seems like pretty much every newspaper is reporting the same thing tomorrow; www.101greatgoals.com/blog/pictures-of-thursdays-papers-wayne-rooney-will-leave-man-united-this-summer-for-20m/?Basically Rooney will be sold if a good offer comes in. Some have suggested £20m but that has got to be bollocks, I'd of thought it'd at least be £30m, maybe even closer to £40m. It'll be interesting to see how it all pans out, especially with some of the articles stating that if Rooney left the idea would be to replace him with Ronaldo. Either way, I think we could well be in for one of our most exciting summers in a while! |
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Post by Kamilo on Mar 7, 2013 0:28:17 GMT
Anyone follow his twitter? Any post game comments?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2013 0:30:25 GMT
Anyone follow his twitter? Any post game comments? Haven't seen any mate, probably been told to keep a lid on it. Just read now from the sun (aye I thought the same). Apparently we're getting ready to offload him in the Summer for 25m. Take it The Sun's takings are down this week then, could come up with better bullshit than this I'm sure, but then I did just answer my own question, It's The Sun. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2013 0:33:17 GMT
His stock has certainly fallen, the general feeling amongst fans now seems to be "If he goes, he goes", a couple of years ago it was massive and everyone wanted him to stay (or at least the vast majority).
I want him to stay, still think he's a class act on the pitch and should be hitting his peak now, but there is concerns. He cannot stay fit over a season, every season he's been here he's missed a month or more with injuries. When he comes back he always takes half a dozen games to finally look sharp again, that's half a dozen games we can't afford if it comes in April and includes title deciding games and Champions League semi finals.
For a player desperate to play in the hole as the main link up, his all round game is no where near good enough. Yes he's good in that area, but not great. Next game count how many times he needlessly gives the ball away, then compare it to how many times someone like Cantona or Bergkamp lost possession in a game.
His strength is about 50% of what it was, when he was 18 defenders bounced off him, watch clips of Euro 2004 and see what he used to be like. Now they shrug him off the ball with ease.
Maybe he's suffering from burn out? We've seen a lot of players who looked superb at 17,18 pretty much done before they hit 30. Owen, Fowler, Cole. Giggs of course not, but he is a freak.
All in all, he's a top class player and one of the best in the country, though not the absolute best like we thought he would be. Over a relatively injury free season he'll score 20-30 goals which is a great thing to have in your team. I want him to remain and continue doing his stuff for us, but if a big bid comes in I'm not gonna tear my hair out if he goes, as long as a quality replacement comes in.
Put it this way, I doubt there'd be too many pissed off United fans if we swapped Rooney (plus about 20 million) for Ronaldo. And that shouldn't have been the case 6 years ago.
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Post by sleel6 on Mar 7, 2013 0:45:30 GMT
I just don't think you drop your best player for no apparent reason in the biggest game of the season. People keep saying that Welbeck's work rate suited our game plan but we have never seen that in similar games in the past.
Agree with joe. If we did sell Wazza but managed to get Ronaldo back or even Bale it would also free up Kagawa to play behind van Persie.
In saying that I hope we don't sell him.
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Post by fergietime on Mar 7, 2013 0:46:38 GMT
people who say rooney is average need to take there f*ckin meds, wellbeck was top draw last night. so no probs with that. I think fergies plan was to bring him on on the hour mark but when to shit with nani being sent off. if real lost last night would there paper say benzema's time is nearly up?? Dont think so.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2013 8:56:20 GMT
the sun's going with that we'll listen to offers of around 25mil
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Mar 7, 2013 9:28:22 GMT
the sun's going with that we'll listen to offers of around 25mil Hahahaha!  |
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Post by Bestie on Mar 7, 2013 9:31:12 GMT
I just don't think you drop your best player for no apparent reason in the biggest game of the season. People keep saying that Welbeck's work rate suited our game plan but we have never seen that in similar games in the past. Agree with joe. If we did sell Wazza but managed to get Ronaldo back or even Bale it would also free up Kagawa to play behind van Persie. In saying that I hope we don't sell him. We didn't. |
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Post by fletchabey on Mar 7, 2013 9:47:13 GMT
I just don't think you drop your best player for no apparent reason in the biggest game of the season. People keep saying that Welbeck's work rate suited our game plan but we have never seen that in similar games in the past. Agree with joe. If we did sell Wazza but managed to get Ronaldo back or even Bale it would also free up Kagawa to play behind van Persie. In saying that I hope we don't sell him. Welbeck did suit the game plan, we got to grips with them in first leg once he was switched off the wing on to Alonso. No reason to you maybe, but maybe you should pay more attention  the game plan was fine and I've yet to see anyone say otherwise, yet theres so much knee jerky drama around him not playing. Selling him for £25mill is laughable, you aren't getting anyone of his quality for that. Even in that type of hypothetical, I'd rather just keep him and buy someone else regardless. |
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Post by traffordbrown on Mar 7, 2013 9:55:36 GMT
The idea of Rooney leaving is nowhere near as scary to me as it was when he pulled his stunt a couple of years ago.
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Mar 7, 2013 10:19:05 GMT
The club isn't daft, they wont sell Rooney for under 35-40 million, he's worth much more than that. People seem to forget that Rooney was pretty average vs Norwich other than the goal and those were his first minutes for a couple of weeks.
This speculation was so predictable It's actually funny.
I for one was more gutted to see Kagawa dropped for Nani on the left, he'd scored a hat-trick over the weekend and looked great during the first 60 mins in Madrid. If anything I'd say the only player we're likely to imminently lose is Nani.
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Post by jimbonda on Mar 7, 2013 11:08:59 GMT
The club isn't daft, they wont sell Rooney for under 35-40 million, he's worth much more than that. only if the likes of PSG want to pay silly money. 20-25 mil for anyone who doesn't i'd guess |
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