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Post by Deez on Nov 14, 2015 17:56:54 GMT
Its was guaranteed to happen unfortunately. ISIS said months ago that they were going to send them in within the refugees and nobody would know when they would strike. Can't seem to remember the last terrorist attack on Australian soil funnily enough. While I don't doubt the perpetrators originated or had some form of training/links in Syria at all, how in Gods name does a passport survive a suicide blast? The same thing with the twin towers, they allegedly found a passport in one of the debris of the towers. Absolutely heartbreaking news, was watching it unfold on Sky. The bastards picking unarmed civilians off one by one with a sawn off shotgun in the gig made me feel sick. Jesus, Lassana Diara has just confirmed his cousin was killed in the attacks, awful news. |
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Post by . on Nov 14, 2015 19:15:10 GMT
Thoughts are with the French people and the residents of Paris. War is coming. Let's not forget who we are.
Is War Always Wrong?
Buddhism challenges us to look beyond a simple right/wrong dichotomy. In Buddhism, an act that sows the seeds of harmful karma is regrettable even if it unavoidable. Sometimes Buddhists fight to defend their nations, home and family. This is not "wrong." Yet even in these circumstances, to harbor hate for one's enemies is still a poison. And any act of war that sows the seeds of future harmful karma is still akusala.
Buddhist morality is based on principles, not rules. Our principles are those expressed in the Precepts and the Four Immeasurables -- loving kindness, compassion, sympathetic joy and equanimity. Our principles also are kindness, gentleness, mercy and tolerance. Even the most extreme circumstances do not erase those principles or make it "righteous" or "good" to violate them.
Yet neither is it "good" or "righteous" to stand aside while innocent people are slaughtered. And the late Ven. Dr. K Sri Dhammananda, a Theravadin monks and scholar, said, "The Buddha did not teach His followers to surrender to any form of evil power be it a human or supernatural being."
To Fight or Not to Fight
In "What Buddhist Believe," the Venerable Dhammananda wrote,
"Buddhists should not be the aggressors even in protecting their religion or anything else. They must try their best to avoid any kind of violent act. Sometimes they may be forced to go to war by others who do not respect the concept of the brotherhood of humans as taught by the Buddha. They may be called upon to defend their country from external aggression, and as long as they have not renounced the worldly life, they are duty-bound to join in the struggle for peace and freedom. Under these circumstances, they cannot be blamed for becoming soldiers or being involved in defence. However, if everyone were to follow the advice of the Buddha, there would be no reason for war to take place in this world. It is the duty of every cultured person to find all possible ways and means to settle disputes in a peaceful manner, without declaring war to kill his or her fellow human beings."
As always in questions of morality, when choosing whether to fight or not to fight a Buddhist must examine his own motivations honestly. It is too easy and too common to rationalize one has pure motives when in fact one is fearful and angry. For most of us self-honesty on this level takes extraordinary effort and maturity, and history tells us that even senior priests with years of practice can lie to themselves.
Love Your Enemy
We are called upon also to extend loving kindness and compassion to our enemies, even when facing them on a battlefield. That's not possible, you say. Maybe it isn't; I can't say I've ever tried it myself. Yet this is our path.
However, over the years I've met people who seem to think that one is obligated to hate one's enemies. I hear them say how can you speak well of someone who hates you? Well, if people want to hate me that's their business, but I can choose not to hate them back. And if you have to fight someone, then fight. But hate is extra.
So often in human history, war has sewn seeds that ripened into the next war. And often, the battles themselves were less responsible for evil karma than the way occupying armies treated civilians, or the way the victor humiliated and oppressed the conquered. At the very least, when it is time to stop fighting, stop fighting. History shows us that the victor who treats the conquered with magnanimity, mercy and leniency is more likely to achieve the lasting victory and eventual peace.
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Post by _ on Nov 14, 2015 19:17:08 GMT
German TV and press now getting into the swing like the rest of Europe. Big concerns that the Syrian terrorists came in with the refugees through Germany. Fears that the 800,000 refugees are now not wanted by any other country so they will remain here and of course the potential consequences. Brussels was involved and a Syrian gun runner arrested in Bavaria - a European wide crisis but politicians want it to remain a French problem. Meanwhile Cameron is priming the British public for an attack and other Europeans claiming solidarity with Paris. What a time to be led by a load of bickering spineless idiots!
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Post by Big_Rons_Leather_Coat on Nov 14, 2015 20:29:08 GMT
Devastating events in Paris. An attack on western society without doubt. I do hope the powers that be in Europe now address this head on. No more bullshit excuses of social exclusion etc etc etc. These are excuses for animals to slaughter OUR people. We are too fucking soft dealing with these cunts. We have to be cruel to be kind in this situation. Extreme muslim views of the world are different to ours. Live as you like in your own land. But fuck right off if the European/western way doesn't suit you. I see a civil uprising in Europe by far right groups that are fucking fed up to the teeth and with justification at this point. ISIS are in Europe and murdering OUR people.
The refugee free ticket should be stopped with immediate effect.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2015 22:07:24 GMT
So yeah one of the suicide bombers was 15.
This is why aliens don't visit us.
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Post by Stew on Nov 14, 2015 22:13:02 GMT
One of the suicide bombers was Syrian. All the rest were French citizens.
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Post by Stew on Nov 14, 2015 22:27:04 GMT
One of the suicide bombers was Syrian. All the rest were French citizens. Edit, that might not be the case. The 3 arrested in Brussels today we're all French. |
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Post by Stew on Nov 14, 2015 22:28:48 GMT
Devastating events in Paris. An attack on western society without doubt. I do hope the powers that be in Europe now address this head on. No more bullshit excuses of social exclusion etc etc etc. These are excuses for animals to slaughter OUR people. We are too fucking soft dealing with these cunts. We have to be cruel to be kind in this situation. Extreme muslim views of the world are different to ours. Live as you like in your own land. But fuck right off if the European/western way doesn't suit you. I see a civil uprising in Europe by far right groups that are fucking fed up to the teeth and with justification at this point. ISIS are in Europe and murdering OUR people. The refugee free ticket should be stopped with immediate effect. You do realise that virtually all these refugees are escaping these animals? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2015 22:31:23 GMT
Devastating events in Paris. An attack on western society without doubt. I do hope the powers that be in Europe now address this head on. No more bullshit excuses of social exclusion etc etc etc. These are excuses for animals to slaughter OUR people. We are too fucking soft dealing with these cunts. We have to be cruel to be kind in this situation. Extreme muslim views of the world are different to ours. Live as you like in your own land. But fuck right off if the European/western way doesn't suit you. I see a civil uprising in Europe by far right groups that are fucking fed up to the teeth and with justification at this point. ISIS are in Europe and murdering OUR people. The refugee free ticket should be stopped with immediate effect. The OUR people is interesting. Today I feel bad for only giving a shit when it happens to western counties. I know 2 Iraqi's who left to come to Australia and they are both hardworking good people. |
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Post by king nothing on Nov 14, 2015 23:53:35 GMT
I'm still in shock at the sheer violence of it. Those folk, just out doing a regular Friday night. I was in Manchester today and it was rammed. It kept going through my mind about Paris.
It is some scary shit.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2015 0:15:21 GMT
Devastating events in Paris. An attack on western society without doubt. I do hope the powers that be in Europe now address this head on. No more bullshit excuses of social exclusion etc etc etc. These are excuses for animals to slaughter OUR people. We are too fucking soft dealing with these cunts. We have to be cruel to be kind in this situation. Extreme muslim views of the world are different to ours. Live as you like in your own land. But fuck right off if the European/western way doesn't suit you. I see a civil uprising in Europe by far right groups that are fucking fed up to the teeth and with justification at this point. ISIS are in Europe and murdering OUR people. The refugee free ticket should be stopped with immediate effect. You do realise that virtually all these refugees are escaping these animals? Sad thing is its a grey area. Yes I feel sorry for them, especially the kids and they do need help. But at the same time nobody knows anything about these people either. A 15 year old kid was one of the bombers, so even the kids are being brainwashed in this bollocks. Hundreds if not thousands of ISIS wankers could have already crossed borders disguised as them. These evil cunts warned us about this months ago and yet the suited cunts making all our country's decisions sat there idly while it happened getting their "this is an act of terror" speech at the ready. Fucking hate religion and I fucking hate politics. Being shit scared to "offend" people with their stupid political correctness because we SHOULD follow their way of living, fuck right off. We love Bacon, we love Beer, we don't want our women to look like a walking fucking postbox. Fuck the PC bullshit and kick the fuckers out. Sort out border control and bring and end to this shit. If they can't abide by our laws, if they can accept our way of living then fuck off. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2015 0:38:16 GMT
Roughly 150 is a massive death toll but thousands of innocent people could be helped by letting people in. The other thing worrying me is how quick people are willing to give up their privacy. Let the government monitor everything. Fuck that shit. The terrorist will win. Getting rid of Hussain for no reason was a massive fuck up. Trying to create democracy where no one wanted it was in hindsight and even bigger fuckup. I wonder if it's not smarter to back a more peaceful Muslim leader to the area. A lesser of two evils. I'm sure that could backfire too but so could everything else being suggested. A long term plan needs to be put in place and we shouldn't be angrily lashing out.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2015 0:50:41 GMT
They're not interested in talks or even having a middle ground. They want it all their own way. They even said themselves that Britain will become an Islamic state. The fucking idle government have done fuck all to counter this. Instead they allow these dicksplashes to force a way of live onto others and if they don't then they act like in this way to try ry and bully their way.
For years now its gotten worse and worse. Allowing them to pretty much do what they like. Now you can't travel a fucking mile without a mosque or some fucking preacher in your face.
You can't say anything either because you get labelled racist. Well fuck them. The way these clowns in charge are going they'll keep backing down to the point where the country is being held hostage to their cuntish ways.
This is Britain and a British state, not a fucking Islamic one. Comes to something when we have soldiers overseas and its probably safer to behe there than it is to be home.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2015 0:58:10 GMT
Roughly 150 is a massive death toll but thousands of innocent people could be helped by letting people in. The other thing worrying me is how quick people are willing to give up their privacy. Let the government monitor everything. Fuck that shit. The terrorist will win. Getting rid of Hussain for no reason was a massive fuck up. Trying to create democracy where no one wanted it was in hindsight and even bigger fuckup. I wonder if it's not smarter to back a more peaceful Muslim leader to the area. A lesser of two evils. I'm sure that could backfire too but so could everything else being suggested. A long term plan needs to be put in place and we shouldn't be angrily lashing out. If you have nothing to hide, why give a shit? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2015 1:17:54 GMT
I'm all for helping people in need but we don't know who these people are. Oh they have a passport? Oh great that will be enough as they can't be forged so your safe. Please enter our country as we know who you are now.
Utter bullshit.
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