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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2019 11:46:36 GMT
He was very good that day. But Jack Wilshere dominated a much better Barca side a decade earlier and came to nothing. What young talented players like Scott need is consistency, and that’s what I haven’t seen from him yet. He may well achieve it soon, I just don’t think he’s there right now. The problem is that consistency is dependent on regular starts, so we either accept that and allow him the platform to progress or hedge our bets and bring in someone else who is more experienced. I think if we hold any candle for the academy we have to give Scott the chances now. Sure, he may plateau and prove to be a archetypal squad player, but without that risk we'll never really know. We need to do that with a lot of players this season. Grow them now, benefit in a season or two. We haven't had this much academy talent since the early 90s imo. |
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Post by Pixel on Jul 26, 2019 11:55:00 GMT
For me Scott starts ahead of Matic from now on. I like Matic but we're far too slow when he plays these days. Midfield 3 should be Scotty - Pogba - Periera/Fred i would even go Scotty Pogba Mata/Gomes against lesser opponents |
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Post by jkr on Jul 26, 2019 12:00:12 GMT
For me Scott starts ahead of Matic from now on. I like Matic but we're far too slow when he plays these days. Midfield 3 should be Scotty - Pogba - Periera/Fred i would even go Scotty Pogba Mata/Gomes against lesser opponents Gomes at no.10 could be electric, the friendlies so far suggest 4-2-3-1 with Scott and Pogba sitting and Mata as #10 is what we'll start with against Chelsea, expect Gomes to make #10 his own before the season is over imo. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2019 12:05:40 GMT
The problem is that consistency is dependent on regular starts, so we either accept that and allow him the platform to progress or hedge our bets and bring in someone else who is more experienced. I think if we hold any candle for the academy we have to give Scott the chances now. Sure, he may plateau and prove to be a archetypal squad player, but without that risk we'll never really know. We need to do that with a lot of players this season. Grow them now, benefit in a season or two. We haven't had this much academy talent since the early 90s imo. I'm really excited to see this bunch. I don't get to see any academy football so it's been a very pleasant surprise to see the pre season this year. |
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Post by caino on Jul 26, 2019 13:19:41 GMT
i would even go Scotty Pogba Mata/Gomes against lesser opponents Gomes at no.10 could be electric, the friendlies so far suggest 4-2-3-1 with Scott and Pogba sitting and Mata as #10 is what we'll start with against Chelsea, expect Gomes to make #10 his own before the season is over imo. I wanna see Gomes play more than Lingard. Gomes has played a lot as a #6 for the academy he could play there alongside McT and Pogba as the play maker I.e Xavi |
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Post by jkr on Jul 26, 2019 13:46:10 GMT
Gomes at no.10 could be electric, the friendlies so far suggest 4-2-3-1 with Scott and Pogba sitting and Mata as #10 is what we'll start with against Chelsea, expect Gomes to make #10 his own before the season is over imo. I wanna see Gomes play more than Lingard. Gomes has played a lot as a #6 for the academy he could play there alongside McT and Pogba as the play maker I.e Xavi Gomes needs to be #10 imo, he'd get bullied as a #6 in the Prem. |
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Post by caino on Jul 26, 2019 13:57:24 GMT
I wanna see Gomes play more than Lingard. Gomes has played a lot as a #6 for the academy he could play there alongside McT and Pogba as the play maker I.e Xavi Gomes needs to be #10 imo, he'd get bullied as a #6 in the Prem. joao moutinho does fine. Paul Scholes wasn’t the biggest either. |
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Post by Stew on Jul 26, 2019 14:35:23 GMT
Gomes needs to be #10 imo, he'd get bullied as a #6 in the Prem. joao moutinho does fine. Paul Scholes wasn’t the biggest either. And they’re both like Andre the Giant in comparison. Gomes won’t be anywhere near central midfield. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2019 14:54:28 GMT
Don't see Gomes being overly used this season, can see him getting some games time in a few cup games perhaps. He'd get thrown around like a rag doll in the league so a bit early yet. Still, can't wait to see more of the lad.
Must admit although its only preseason I'm genuinely looking forward to the season more now because of how these academy players have performed. Especially Greenwood and Axel.
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Post by caino on Jul 26, 2019 15:02:09 GMT
Moutinho is .1m taller. I prefer Gomes as #10 anyways I think we could do with his intricacies around the area.
That goal was superb. Proper close control and good finish
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2019 15:18:00 GMT
I get the feeling Gomes will get his games this year. He is way more physically capable than some of you are giving him credit. I was in that camp last summer but he has made strides this season.
I would like him to maybe go on loan to the Championship though, I think it could be the making of him.
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Post by caino on Jul 26, 2019 15:30:03 GMT
I get the feeling Gomes will get his games this year. He is way more physically capable than some of you are giving him credit. I was in that camp last summer but he has made strides this season. I would like him to maybe go on loan to the Championship though, I think it could be the making of him. I’m of the opinion of just playing him regularly. I think he’s a type of player who will play better with better players around him. He didn’t look too bothered about size against inter and he was getting stuck in himself |
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Post by Stew on Jul 26, 2019 15:30:47 GMT
I get the feeling Gomes will get his games this year. He is way more physically capable than some of you are giving him credit. I was in that camp last summer but he has made strides this season. I would like him to maybe go on loan to the Championship though, I think it could be the making of him. Gomes looks a strong lad for his size and possesses bundles of skill. He’d be massacred in central midfield in the premier league however so I’m not even sure why this is a discussion. It’s never goin* to happen nor should it. Get him close to the opposition area to cause damage not in midfield to get booted all over the park. |
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Post by ratbag on Jul 27, 2019 10:55:21 GMT
I get the feeling Gomes will get his games this year. He is way more physically capable than some of you are giving him credit. I was in that camp last summer but he has made strides this season. I would like him to maybe go on loan to the Championship though, I think it could be the making of him. Gomes looks a strong lad for his size and possesses bundles of skill. He’d be massacred in central midfield in the premier league however so I’m not even sure why this is a discussion. It’s never goin* to happen nor should it. Get him close to the opposition area to cause damage not in midfield to get booted all over the park. Agreed, he needs to be in what is Mata's ideal position at #10... |
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