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Post by mightyez on Mar 2, 2020 7:38:12 GMT
I’m absolutely certain Dave will go for that. hes under contract until 2023 isn't he ? He is but he is too young as a keeper and too good to be teaching anyone right now. He has like 6 years of top level football. A more attractive solution is keep Romero get Henderson in and PSG bring some of that tasty state money for DDG. I still think he is the the beat keeper on his day but I rate Henderson extremely highly and believe if Uncle Malcolms boys will reinvest and the price is silly we should really consider a sale. Reality is we won’t get for him the silly money required so he will stay as number one
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Post by juanveron on Mar 2, 2020 7:43:59 GMT
DDG's regression since the World Cup has been absolutely devastating. Last season I dare say we would've gotten top 4 if he hadn't made some crucial mistakes, this season it might come to it as well (although, there are so many other areas in the team that aren't doing well enough that it would be harsh to point the finger just at him).
He still has all the ability that is required to be the best GK in the world - he's not even 30, he has at least 3-4 years before you'd think he'll start regressing. It's his psyche that is failing him and us, being scapegoated for Spain's failure has really taken a toll on his belief in his abilities.
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Post by redcase on Mar 2, 2020 8:07:44 GMT
I am willing to overlook anything else De Gea does his season and maybe the next, because he has saved our arses so many times I lose count. He gets a pass with such things because he has earned it with years of heroics. He owes this club very little. He has pissed away the prime years of his life where he should be winning leagues and Champions Leagues, but instead has been part of this shitshow. He is also 29, with a lot more miles left on his tank, considering he is a keeper. Our management has had a world class keeper for years but has begun to address the defenders only a year ago. I cannot imagine how demoralising it would have been week in week out to play alongside complete shite and yet he kept his standards up. He is showing a dip now, which is okay because he is human.
De Gea is honestly the least of our concerns.
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Post by redcase on Mar 2, 2020 8:12:12 GMT
bring Henderson in. make him the first choice. sell romero. have De Gea as the back up and for the player to teach Henderson. if Henderson has a wobble whilst hes learning De Gea can retake the reigns. would keep the pressure off Henderson while hes beddin in. And when Henderson makes his mistakes ? Where will we turn to next? The pressure of playing under the spotlight week in week out for a club this size is something you cannot diminish. How do we know how his mentality is? Playing at Sheffield and playing here are hugely different things. De Gea as backup? Ridiculous. The guy is 29 and he is going through a bad patch. He's cost us a few goal, but for the past 5 years he has won us games and points singlehandedly. If anyone gets a pass- it's him.
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Post by caino on Mar 2, 2020 8:40:33 GMT
bring Henderson in. make him the first choice. sell romero. have De Gea as the back up and for the player to teach Henderson. if Henderson has a wobble whilst hes learning De Gea can retake the reigns. would keep the pressure off Henderson while hes beddin in. And when Henderson makes his mistakes ? Where will we turn to next? The pressure of playing under the spotlight week in week out for a club this size is something you cannot diminish. How do we know how his mentality is? Playing at Sheffield and playing here are hugely different things. De Gea as backup? Ridiculous. The guy is 29 and he is going through a bad patch. He's cost us a few goal, but for the past 5 years he has won us games and points singlehandedly. If anyone gets a pass- it's him. when do you draw the line if he keeps making the same basic errors. theyre absolute howlers what hes done recently. DDG was my favourite player for a long time, but whatever the reason, his mentality is slipping. they're becoming that bad of errors you can remember them. he might need a change a scenery to rediscover his form. hes always been a GK that relies on his reflexes, hes never been good in the air and claiming crosses and demanding his area. we could cash in while hes still near the top and still get a lot of money for him. reinvest in the squad. we would have made profit on him
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Post by Kojak on Mar 2, 2020 8:49:40 GMT
There’s this weird theory about now that he’s made some mistakes. People are saying “he’s always had these mistakes in him”, “he’s never been good on crosses” etc.
Dave wasn’t making mistakes at all when he was on top. He wasn’t flapping at every cross but masking it with a wonder save like people say. He was absolutely world class.
People are pointing at him getting smashed to pieces in his early 20’s by Andy Carroll like that was the real Dave. He’s well off the boil now, no doubt about it, but his time as the worlds number one wasn’t brief. He earned that title over several years, not with one season of great saves.
Having said that, it may well be time to consider shifting him on, as we’re approaching two years now since he was really on top.
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Post by keanosdog16 on Mar 2, 2020 9:44:12 GMT
My memory of yesterdays game is a bit fuzzy but from what i recall Everton had about 100 corners, most of which were headed away by Maguire - good performance from him?
Martial was back to his usual self and Lindelof was the weak link at the back again!? To which i did point out before that he should not have been starting this game against their physical front line! In fact he shouldn't be starting any game, Bailly has performed better in his 2 apps recently but may be Ole is easing him back in.......
Was glad of the point in the end which keeps us in touch but Wolves are no breathing heavily down our necks and looking on form!!
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Post by keanosdog16 on Mar 2, 2020 9:48:04 GMT
On the subject of Dave, he has cost us a lot goals in recent times, which wouldn't be too much of a problem if we had players of character like we used to but to give goals away and then ask this bunch to chase games is just infuriating, it offers encouragement and belief to the opposition and he needs to cut it out....
I'm on the fence a bit with this, i can see a case for both sides but for now i think we have to stick with him, he just needs to engage his bloody brain.........
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Post by Carbon on Mar 2, 2020 10:23:53 GMT
what even is the last 2 pages of this thread.
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Post by Stew on Mar 2, 2020 10:37:57 GMT
My memory of yesterdays game is a bit fuzzy but from what i recall Everton had about 100 corners, most of which were headed away by Maguire - good performance from him? Martial was back to his usual self and Lindelof was the weak link at the back again!? To which i did point out before that he should not have been starting this game against their physical front line! In fact he shouldn't be starting any game, Bailly has performed better in his 2 apps recently but may be Ole is easing him back in....... Was glad of the point in the end which keeps us in touch but Wolves are no breathing heavily down our necks and looking on form!! Maguire was deservedly MOTM, just shading it from Bruno. He took a bit of time to settle in but he’s really starting to look the part. The fee will always be ridiculous but he should be a fine CB for us for some time.
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Post by Stew on Mar 2, 2020 10:39:02 GMT
There’s this weird theory about now that he’s made some mistakes. People are saying “he’s always had these mistakes in him”, “he’s never been good on crosses” etc. Dave wasn’t making mistakes at all when he was on top. He wasn’t flapping at every cross but masking it with a wonder save like people say. He was absolutely world class. People are pointing at him getting smashed to pieces in his early 20’s by Andy Carroll like that was the real Dave. He’s well off the boil now, no doubt about it, but his time as the worlds number one wasn’t brief. He earned that title over several years, not with one season of great saves. Having said that, it may well be time to consider shifting him on, as we’re approaching two years now since he was really on top. He also pulled off two cracking saves yesterday.
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Post by Carbon on Mar 2, 2020 10:47:24 GMT
There’s this weird theory about now that he’s made some mistakes. People are saying “he’s always had these mistakes in him”, “he’s never been good on crosses” etc. Dave wasn’t making mistakes at all when he was on top. He wasn’t flapping at every cross but masking it with a wonder save like people say. He was absolutely world class. People are pointing at him getting smashed to pieces in his early 20’s by Andy Carroll like that was the real Dave. He’s well off the boil now, no doubt about it, but his time as the worlds number one wasn’t brief. He earned that title over several years, not with one season of great saves. Having said that, it may well be time to consider shifting him on, as we’re approaching two years now since he was really on top. He also pulled off two cracking saves yesterday.
Shhhhhh - dont tell people that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2020 10:47:35 GMT
Yeah Maguire improving week after week. Think we sometimes only speak about foreign players taking time to adapt but it’s often the case for British players too.
May not seem like it sometimes but playing for Manchester United is still a big deal.
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Post by Carbon on Mar 2, 2020 11:17:24 GMT
This was filth by Bruno btw;
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Post by GeniusCantona on Mar 2, 2020 12:53:43 GMT
I think you only sell De Gea if you believe you can cash in on him to add to the transfer budget because it’s becoming apparent we’re operating under a tight budget without champions league football. Whether we invest all of that into transfer budget is another story. We’d also have to be patient with Henderson, as he will inevitably make errors along the way, he’s only 22. But I don’t think it’s going to happen because of De Gea’s high wages preventing another club coming in with a serious offer.
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