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Post by GeniusCantona on Feb 14, 2021 21:40:44 GMT
Just reading some of the excuses offered for Ole elsewhere, “Fergie had time, best team since Fergie retired” etc etc. The selective memory of this mob. Fergie would never play two holding and limited midfielders against opposition like West Brom. VDB and Bruno would be given the opportunity to play together, Rashford in his favoured position and Greenwood would be getting matches over Martial. Ole will never change, he’s a coward.
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Post by gdmm on Feb 14, 2021 21:58:53 GMT
Just reading some of the excuses offered for Ole elsewhere, “Fergie had time, best team since Fergie retired” etc etc. The selective memory of this mob. Fergie would never play two holding and limited midfielders against opposition like West Brom. VDB and Bruno would be given the opportunity to play together, Rashford in his favoured position and Greenwood would be getting matches over Martial. Ole will never change, he’s a coward. He may have done with these centre halves.
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Post by Karma on Feb 14, 2021 22:16:56 GMT
For the long term benefit we need to drop out of the top 4. The brains trust will probably give him a contract extension otherwise. With Southgate busy at the Euros that might stop that horror scenario happening then Allegri is the only realistic option with Tuchel and Poch snapped up.
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Post by ratbag on Feb 14, 2021 22:36:51 GMT
For the long term benefit we need to drop out of the top 4. The brains trust will probably give him a contract extension otherwise. With Southgate busy at the Euros that might stop that horror scenario happening then Allegri is the only realistic option with Tuchel and Poch snapped up. I tend to agree with you but would Allegri come here and given Ed and the Gimps would he stay? I have no doubt that he could do better with what we have but we do need some better players in certain positions...
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Post by Kamilo on Feb 15, 2021 3:19:10 GMT
Nothing will change until the board and owners go, if he gets top 4 he’s meeting the stated goals that allow them the brand exposure they want.
You could get a top manager with higher expectations and it’ll all blow up like it did with Jose (regardless what you think of his tenure) once he realized he won’t be backed and their aspirations don’t match his, and he spoke out.
Plus Ole is in his dream job and never expected to be there on merit. He will never put an ounce of doubt about the structure of it all out himself. No chance. And for now he is meeting their mediocre goals. It’s all about that brand they could give two shits about the trophies, the cross town neighbors, or the resurgence of Liverpool. He’s not even pushing himself for a title challenge he just doesn’t need to rock the boat too much.
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Post by Kamilo on Feb 15, 2021 3:20:56 GMT
Btw it’s Nagelsmann or bust at this point if you ask me.
Only manager that might exceed expectations of this dreadful ownership and not implode the on field football simultaneously.
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Post by safariRed on Feb 15, 2021 6:24:34 GMT
For the long term benefit we need to drop out of the top 4. The brains trust will probably give him a contract extension otherwise. With Southgate busy at the Euros that might stop that horror scenario happening then Allegri is the only realistic option with Tuchel and Poch snapped up. I want ole out as much as anyone , but missing out on the champions League right now is really really bad for the growth of these players albeit getting knocked out of the group stages when you had a better chance of progressing is no better.
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Post by redcase on Feb 15, 2021 8:00:53 GMT
How in the actual fuck does Pawson that gormless cunt blow the whistle there at the end of the half. Everton were allowed to play well past their additional time and scored as well. How do you fucking blow the whistle there. It was literally 3 seconds past 2 minutes. It's fucking minimum 2 minutes not maximum you prick.
There's not a single ref in this cunting league who deserves his job.
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Post by Kojak on Feb 15, 2021 9:05:36 GMT
For the long term benefit we need to drop out of the top 4. The brains trust will probably give him a contract extension otherwise. With Southgate busy at the Euros that might stop that horror scenario happening then Allegri is the only realistic option with Tuchel and Poch snapped up. Can’t believe there’s people here going into games wanting us to lose. Others going on about “Fergie would’ve never played that midfield” or “Fergie would’ve given x player a chance”. We used to all criticise Fergie’s team selections all the time here, difference is we usually won so the memory of it was short lived. The amount of times we were losing our shit over ancient Ryan Giggs starting a game instead of the latest hot young thing. Why do people think Fergie went all out attack every game? Hoping we drop out of the top four takes the cake for me. Pretty sure a large selection of Arsenal fans were saying the same thing to get rid of Wenger, and now look at them.
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Post by oscared on Feb 15, 2021 10:03:54 GMT
For the long term benefit we need to drop out of the top 4. The brains trust will probably give him a contract extension otherwise. With Southgate busy at the Euros that might stop that horror scenario happening then Allegri is the only realistic option with Tuchel and Poch snapped up. Can’t believe there’s people here going into games wanting us to lose. Others going on about “Fergie would’ve never played that midfield” or “Fergie would’ve given x player a chance”. We used to all criticise Fergie’s team selections all the time here, difference is we usually won so the memory of it was short lived. The amount of times we were losing our shit over ancient Ryan Giggs starting a game instead of the latest hot young thing. Why do people think Fergie went all out attack every game? Hoping we drop out of the top four takes the cake for me. Pretty sure a large selection of Arsenal fans were saying the same thing to get rid of Wenger, and now look at them. Fans are really frustrated we are down a long cul de sac with no sign of reversing out of it, even if / when Ole goes the next man has these parasite owners to deal with. Man Utd should not be in this position it’s criminal.
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Post by Kojak on Feb 15, 2021 10:44:37 GMT
Can’t believe there’s people here going into games wanting us to lose. Others going on about “Fergie would’ve never played that midfield” or “Fergie would’ve given x player a chance”. We used to all criticise Fergie’s team selections all the time here, difference is we usually won so the memory of it was short lived. The amount of times we were losing our shit over ancient Ryan Giggs starting a game instead of the latest hot young thing. Why do people think Fergie went all out attack every game? Hoping we drop out of the top four takes the cake for me. Pretty sure a large selection of Arsenal fans were saying the same thing to get rid of Wenger, and now look at them. Fans are really frustrated we are down a long cul de sac with no sign of reversing out of it, even if / when Ole goes the next man has these parasite owners to deal with. Man Utd should not be in this position it’s criminal. My stance the whole time is that this is not just Ole’s ceiling, it’s the club’s ceiling under this regime.
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Post by Rustin Cohle on Feb 15, 2021 11:50:52 GMT
Someone just pointed this out to me. If we think VAR is bad (and I do) - just wait until the controversy when someone goes out of Europe on away goals when both games were played without fans at a neutral venue...
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Post by Bestie on Feb 15, 2021 11:55:49 GMT
How in the actual fuck does Pawson that gormless cunt blow the whistle there at the end of the half. Everton were allowed to play well past their additional time and scored as well. How do you fucking blow the whistle there. It was literally 3 seconds past 2 minutes. It's fucking minimum 2 minutes not maximum you prick. There's not a single ref in this cunting league who deserves his job. As I said yesterday when it happened we should genuinely be filing a complaint. We shouldn't have been letting him off the pitch. I couldn't watch the second half - did Ole say anything about it after the game?
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Post by Stew on Feb 15, 2021 12:06:29 GMT
How in the actual fuck does Pawson that gormless cunt blow the whistle there at the end of the half. Everton were allowed to play well past their additional time and scored as well. How do you fucking blow the whistle there. It was literally 3 seconds past 2 minutes. It's fucking minimum 2 minutes not maximum you prick. There's not a single ref in this cunting league who deserves his job. As I said yesterday when it happened we should genuinely be filing a complaint. We shouldn't have been letting him off the pitch. I couldn't watch the second half - did Ole say anything about it after the game? We haven’t had a sniff since that German prick opened his mouth.
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Post by keanosdog16 on Feb 15, 2021 12:08:14 GMT
Asked if he was concerned about the forward’s form, Solskjaer said: "Oh no, I know Anthony is working hard to get back to where he was. "His attitude is very good. Form is sometimes temporary but class is permanent and the kid has got class. "And when he works hard we know he's going to come out with the performances in the end."
If this is what Ole thinks then he can fuckin do one, work hard and Tony Martial in the same sentence, jesus fuckin christ!! the blind faith he has in certain players winds me right up, DDG, Lindelof and Martial are 3 who continually let him down and yet they're picked week after fuckin week, and Maguire should be included in that but we spunked 80 big ones on him so no way he's getting dropped.
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