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Post by Carbon on Feb 15, 2021 12:13:35 GMT
How in the actual fuck does Pawson that gormless cunt blow the whistle there at the end of the half. Everton were allowed to play well past their additional time and scored as well. How do you fucking blow the whistle there. It was literally 3 seconds past 2 minutes. It's fucking minimum 2 minutes not maximum you prick. There's not a single ref in this cunting league who deserves his job. As I said yesterday when it happened we should genuinely be filing a complaint. We shouldn't have been letting him off the pitch. I couldn't watch the second half - did Ole say anything about it after the game?
not in the interview too-
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Post by keanosdog16 on Feb 15, 2021 12:48:05 GMT
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Post by Ole's Red Whiteknight03 Army on Feb 15, 2021 13:37:44 GMT
Nothing will change until the board and owners go, if he gets top 4 he’s meeting the stated goals that allow them the brand exposure they want. You could get a top manager with higher expectations and it’ll all blow up like it did with Jose (regardless what you think of his tenure) once he realized he won’t be backed and their aspirations don’t match his, and he spoke out. This is the inconvenient truth that people are refusing to admit. Hand pick the manager (spoiler alert: they aren’t stupid enough to take this poisoned chalice). Martial is still a waste of space. Rashford is still inconsistent. McFred aren’t good enough to shield by themselves and offer very little going forward. AWB still can’t cross. Lindelof still can’t beat a paraplegic in the air. Maguire still can’t position himself properly and DdG still doesn’t command his box. Then you’ve got the Pogba situation to fix/appease bc Ed won’t let you sell him not to mention the lack of intestinal fortitude running through the side and their propensity for downing tools at the first sign of adversity. Ed/Joel won’t let you sell the big names, will reward the lesser ones with huge contracts and will undermine you in the transfer market. Hand pick the manager, and within 2 years we’re right back in this exact place. |
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Post by Stew on Feb 15, 2021 14:14:00 GMT
Nothing will change until the board and owners go, if he gets top 4 he’s meeting the stated goals that allow them the brand exposure they want. You could get a top manager with higher expectations and it’ll all blow up like it did with Jose (regardless what you think of his tenure) once he realized he won’t be backed and their aspirations don’t match his, and he spoke out. This is the inconvenient truth that people are refusing to admit. Hand pick the manager (spoiler alert: they aren’t stupid enough to take this poisoned chalice). Martial is still a waste of space. Rashford is still inconsistent. McFred aren’t good enough to shield by themselves and offer very little going forward. AWB still can’t cross. Lindelof still can’t beat a paraplegic in the air. Maguire still can’t position himself properly and DdG still doesn’t command his box. Then you’ve got the Pogba situation to fix/appease bc Ed won’t let you sell him not to mention the lack of intestinal fortitude running through the side and their propensity for downing tools at the first sign of adversity. Ed/Joel won’t let you sell the big names, will reward the lesser ones with huge contracts and will undermine you in the transfer market. Hand pick the manager, and within 2 years we’re right back in this exact place. In which case you either- A. Hope Ole learns on the job and somehow manages to fix some of these issues. Given that he’s over 2 years here now that might be a tad fanciful but you never know I suppose. B. Get a manager who has a track record of improving players at a club. There aren’t too many of those but surely one or two are in football currently.. C. Find someone who has a track record of doing wonders with youngsters and promote more of the current crop as they look some of the best we’ve had for some time. At the very least it might be interesting. |
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Post by Ole's Red Whiteknight03 Army on Feb 15, 2021 14:26:17 GMT
This is the inconvenient truth that people are refusing to admit. Hand pick the manager (spoiler alert: they aren’t stupid enough to take this poisoned chalice). Martial is still a waste of space. Rashford is still inconsistent. McFred aren’t good enough to shield by themselves and offer very little going forward. AWB still can’t cross. Lindelof still can’t beat a paraplegic in the air. Maguire still can’t position himself properly and DdG still doesn’t command his box. Then you’ve got the Pogba situation to fix/appease bc Ed won’t let you sell him not to mention the lack of intestinal fortitude running through the side and their propensity for downing tools at the first sign of adversity. Ed/Joel won’t let you sell the big names, will reward the lesser ones with huge contracts and will undermine you in the transfer market. Hand pick the manager, and within 2 years we’re right back in this exact place. In which case you either- A. Hope Ole learns on the job and somehow manages to fix some of these issues. Given that he’s over 2 years here now that might be a tad fanciful but you never know I suppose. B. Get a manager who has a track record of improving players at a club. There aren’t too many of those but surely one or two are in football currently.. C. Find someone who has a track record of doing wonders with youngsters and promote more of the current crop as they look some of the best we’ve had for some time. At the very least it might be interesting. A. Let’s say you’re a bright young thing with a proven track record of identifying and developing youth players. You can also take existing players and get the absolute max out of them. Are you really coming here to be Ed’s bitch? Because like you said, there’s not many of those types around and if one becomes available they’re gonna have options. B. Which of those issues are fixable with ‘proper coaching?’ C. By all accounts, we’ve potentially got quite the crop on its way in a few seasons. I’d be tempted to throw more of them into the first team, if our ‘fanbase’ weren’t going to go full 1939 on them. |
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Post by Karma on Feb 15, 2021 14:26:21 GMT
Nothing will change until the board and owners go, if he gets top 4 he’s meeting the stated goals that allow them the brand exposure they want. You could get a top manager with higher expectations and it’ll all blow up like it did with Jose (regardless what you think of his tenure) once he realized he won’t be backed and their aspirations don’t match his, and he spoke out. This is the inconvenient truth that people are refusing to admit. Hand pick the manager (spoiler alert: they aren’t stupid enough to take this poisoned chalice). Martial is still a waste of space. Rashford is still inconsistent. McFred aren’t good enough to shield by themselves and offer very little going forward. AWB still can’t cross. Lindelof still can’t beat a paraplegic in the air. Maguire still can’t position himself properly and DdG still doesn’t command his box. Then you’ve got the Pogba situation to fix/appease bc Ed won’t let you sell him not to mention the lack of intestinal fortitude running through the side and their propensity for downing tools at the first sign of adversity. Ed/Joel won’t let you sell the big names, will reward the lesser ones with huge contracts and will undermine you in the transfer market. Hand pick the manager, and within 2 years we’re right back in this exact place. Er... go back to what I said even before Jose was sacked. Any success is inspite of the owners. That doesn’t mean we accept a sub standard manager as well. |
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Post by Karma on Feb 15, 2021 14:34:00 GMT
For the long term benefit we need to drop out of the top 4. The brains trust will probably give him a contract extension otherwise. With Southgate busy at the Euros that might stop that horror scenario happening then Allegri is the only realistic option with Tuchel and Poch snapped up. Can’t believe there’s people here going into games wanting us to lose. Others going on about “Fergie would’ve never played that midfield” or “Fergie would’ve given x player a chance”. We used to all criticise Fergie’s team selections all the time here, difference is we usually won so the memory of it was short lived. The amount of times we were losing our shit over ancient Ryan Giggs starting a game instead of the latest hot young thing. Why do people think Fergie went all out attack every game? Hoping we drop out of the top four takes the cake for me. Pretty sure a large selection of Arsenal fans were saying the same thing to get rid of Wenger, and now look at them. They replaced Wenger with an inferior manager. We already have a low bar. Being afraid of the unknown isn’t an excuse for tolerating this. |
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Post by Stew on Feb 15, 2021 14:36:32 GMT
In which case you either- A. Hope Ole learns on the job and somehow manages to fix some of these issues. Given that he’s over 2 years here now that might be a tad fanciful but you never know I suppose. B. Get a manager who has a track record of improving players at a club. There aren’t too many of those but surely one or two are in football currently.. C. Find someone who has a track record of doing wonders with youngsters and promote more of the current crop as they look some of the best we’ve had for some time. At the very least it might be interesting. A. Let’s say you’re a bright young thing with a proven track record of identifying and developing youth players. You can also take existing players and get the absolute max out of them. Are you really coming here to be Ed’s bitch? Because like you said, there’s not many of those types around and if one becomes available they’re gonna have options. B. Which of those issues are fixable with ‘proper coaching?’ C. By all accounts, we’ve potentially got quite the crop on its way in a few seasons. I’d be tempted to throw more of them into the first team, if our ‘fanbase’ weren’t going to go full 1939 on them. At least half of them. |
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Post by oscared on Feb 15, 2021 16:10:55 GMT
Ole’s interviews pre or post match are shocking, he chats pure shite.
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Post by ratbag on Feb 15, 2021 16:37:05 GMT
Sorry but I just wanted to drag this back to the actual game for a moment...
I didn't get to watch it and have only just had a chance to see the goals (thanks Carbs...)...
I have three comments:
1. DDG could and should have come out and collected that cross for the first goal...
2. Lindelof is as soft as blancmange...
3. What a lovely goal by Bruno...
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Post by Rustin Cohle on Feb 15, 2021 18:02:51 GMT
Sorry but I just wanted to drag this back to the actual game for a moment... I didn't get to watch it and have only just had a chance to see the goals (thanks Carbs...)... I have three comments: 1. DDG could and should have come out and collected that cross for the first goal... 2. Lindelof is as soft as blancmange... 3. What a lovely goal by Bruno... Disagree on DDG. He has to think his defender will get to it. Lindelof would be in the way if he tried to claim it. |
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Post by oscared on Feb 15, 2021 18:09:31 GMT
Sorry but I just wanted to drag this back to the actual game for a moment... I didn't get to watch it and have only just had a chance to see the goals (thanks Carbs...)... I have three comments: 1. DDG could and should have come out and collected that cross for the first goal... 2. Lindelof is as soft as blancmange... 3. What a lovely goal by Bruno... People won’t like this but Iv always thought DDG was over rated, he makes some excellent saves but his overall game lets him down, he’s poor on crosses, his distribution isn’t great and he relies on his feet too much which is odd, a mate of mine has done some goalkeeper coaching and doesn’t think he’s anything special, I’d like to see Henderson more I think he’s far better. |
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Post by Kojak on Feb 15, 2021 18:13:24 GMT
Can’t believe there’s people here going into games wanting us to lose. Others going on about “Fergie would’ve never played that midfield” or “Fergie would’ve given x player a chance”. We used to all criticise Fergie’s team selections all the time here, difference is we usually won so the memory of it was short lived. The amount of times we were losing our shit over ancient Ryan Giggs starting a game instead of the latest hot young thing. Why do people think Fergie went all out attack every game? Hoping we drop out of the top four takes the cake for me. Pretty sure a large selection of Arsenal fans were saying the same thing to get rid of Wenger, and now look at them. They replaced Wenger with an inferior manager. We already have a low bar. Being afraid of the unknown isn’t an excuse for tolerating this. It’s not the unknown. You know exactly what would happen. We’d replace him and do no better than we’re doing now. |
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Post by Stretty on Feb 15, 2021 18:15:14 GMT
Sorry but I just wanted to drag this back to the actual game for a moment... I didn't get to watch it and have only just had a chance to see the goals (thanks Carbs...)... I have three comments: 1. DDG could and should have come out and collected that cross for the first goal... 2. Lindelof is as soft as blancmange... 3. What a lovely goal by Bruno... thats sums up about half our matches this season |
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Post by Karma on Feb 15, 2021 20:06:57 GMT
They replaced Wenger with an inferior manager. We already have a low bar. Being afraid of the unknown isn’t an excuse for tolerating this. It’s not the unknown. You know exactly what would happen. We’d replace him and do no better than we’re doing now. I guarantee you wouldn’t say that if he hadn’t played for us. |
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