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Post by harvindhillon on Oct 21, 2022 15:01:10 GMT
Gentlemen. I know this is a pretty incendiary topic but let’s try to maintain some civility. Thanks The guy’s only response to that question is “go ask Keane”. I mean. I thought Keano was your best mate? Did you ask him though?  |
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Post by redcase on Oct 21, 2022 15:26:51 GMT
The guy’s only response to that question is “go ask Keane”. I mean. I thought Keano was your best mate? Did you ask him though? Dunno mate he’s been ghosting me of late. Which is especially weird since we had a smashing time the last time we hung out. |
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Post by harvindhillon on Oct 21, 2022 15:27:27 GMT
fair enough but let's be honest if you can get his frustration then you could see why some people out of frustration are hacked off. The performance was a good one and that's all that should have been discussed the following day, not him walking down and tunnel and leaving and definitely not him refusing to come on. All we hear is how professional he is, how well he trains etc, he has to maintain that legacy as the ultimate professional. I fully get that in his last years his mentality is simply gonna be 'break all records, ensure the figures show I was the best' but he has to accept his reality right now is he is at Manchester United and unfortunately the club is not positioned right now to support his record breaking dreams and the manager does not feel he is best placed to support what he wants to achieve. Hard pill to swallow, anyone expecting otherwise is crazy. The one person he should be massively ticked off with is his agent, he simply failed to do what he advised he could do in the summer (He can also throw Tuchel in there too). I don't care about individual results anymore. They're nice and everything but unless they lead to us actually winning something we have been on this roundabout before. It's been a decade since we won the League FFS. If these discussions about Ronaldo stave off yet more overblown false positivity while ultimately we have achieved nothing then brilliant. I appreciate it's going to be boring/exasperating for some people but you are correct we need to be realistic. We need to be demanding the highest standards. Not more 'progress' bullshit. The thing is this season you cant deny after the first two games (which Ronaldo started) besides the City game the only other game where we struggled was Newcastle where we dominated but didnt score. Ronaldo once again started. Now, I do not know what's his state of mind at the moment, but some of this is his own doing. He didn't show up for pre-season and tried his very best to move but didn't materialise one way or another. One thing that is clear we are playing better this season without him in the side, even with 10 shot Rashford, we run more, more shots on target and more goals. So the criticisms of Ronaldo this season are "mostly" fair.
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Post by Stew on Oct 21, 2022 16:30:48 GMT
Gentlemen. I know this is a pretty incendiary topic but let’s try to maintain some civility. Thanks The guy’s only response to that question is “go ask Keane”. I mean. For everyone’s sake, can we move on from this please? |
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Post by mightyez on Oct 21, 2022 17:08:16 GMT
I thought Keano was your best mate? Did you ask him though? Dunno mate he’s been ghosting me of late. Which is especially weird since we had a smashing time the last time we hung out.  |
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Post by Karma on Oct 21, 2022 19:43:33 GMT
I’m sorry but I believe Roy Keane everyday over those hacks. And who do you believe between Fergie and Keane? Because there were two vastly different versions of how they fell out. Keane met the ruthless Fergie who dumped players when the time was right. His calling out the squad just gave him a perfect excuse and Keane was obviously sore about it. IMO |
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Post by johnboy14 on Oct 21, 2022 20:44:56 GMT
I’m sorry but I believe Roy Keane everyday over those hacks. Where's Roy getting his information from? |
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Post by johnboy14 on Oct 21, 2022 20:49:25 GMT
And who do you believe between Fergie and Keane? Because there were two vastly different versions of how they fell out. Wonder if people would be agreeing with Keano if he'd said the same about McTominay or Rashford (they wouldn't). There seems to be a lot of excuses made simply because of the player its related to. Noticed there's still no clubs mentioned above instead it's deflection because there is nothing to back the argument up. Player fucks up, correct consequences, the end. Same will apply to the rest. The manager is putting his stamp on this player power at the club and I'm all for it. It's well overdue in my opinion and he must do it. Yes he's apologised but punishment must be dished out. For too long now, players have called the shots. The touting to the media last season was embarrassing. |
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Post by harvindhillon on Oct 21, 2022 21:40:07 GMT
I’m sorry but I believe Roy Keane everyday over those hacks. Where's Roy getting his information from? From those same hacks what else  |
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