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Post by oscared on Jun 4, 2023 18:16:20 GMT
I donāt expect ETH to publicly slag players off but I really hope heās does privately and tells them exactly how poor they are, obviously weāll probably never find out though.
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Post by GeniusCantona on Jun 4, 2023 18:33:48 GMT
Judge ten Hag by his actions and subtle messages thru the media. The fact Maguire has only started 16 games, McFred firmly a thing of the past, and the smart messages he has sent thru the media regarding signings should be enough to suggest heās got full control and knows what heās doing.
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Post by Paul on Jun 4, 2023 18:41:06 GMT
Judge ten Hag by his actions and subtle messages thru the media. The fact Maguire has only started 16 games, McFred firmly a thing of the past, and the smart messages he has sent thru the media regarding signings should be enough to suggest heās got full control and knows whatās heās doing. Rome wasn't built in a day but this alone proves its a start. Can't expect him to get everything spot on straight away. There have been learning curves along the way. He's done enough this season to warranted being backed, next season is where he earns his stripes and proves how good he is, just hope he gets the backing this summer to help do that. |
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Post by Kojak on Jun 4, 2023 19:24:51 GMT
I donāt expect ETH to publicly slag players off but I really hope heās does privately and tells them exactly how poor they are, obviously weāll probably never find out though. No manager ever privately says to a player āyouāre shitā. That would be fucking mental. Theyād just go āyouāre not part of my plansā. |
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Post by johnboy14 on Jun 4, 2023 20:48:37 GMT
I donāt expect ETH to publicly slag players off but I really hope heās does privately and tells them exactly how poor they are, obviously weāll probably never find out though. No manager ever privately says to a player āyouāre shitā. That would be fucking mental. Theyād just go āyouāre not part of my plansā. They just don't pick them if it can be helped. Alot of people think everything is black and white in these matters but anyone who's managed people in anything knows it's never like that. Managers have to weigh up everything, if you just lose your shit all the time then your better off doing something else. |
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Post by Bestie on Jun 4, 2023 21:34:47 GMT
No manager ever privately says to a player āyouāre shitā. That would be fucking mental. Theyād just go āyouāre not part of my plansā. They just don't pick them if it can be helped. Alot of people think everything is black and white in these matters but anyone who's managed people in anything knows it's never like that. Managers have to weigh up everything, if you just lose your shit all the time then your better off doing something else. Jose literally put a World Cup winner in the reserves. Guardiola sat in his first press conference as a first team manager and said three huge-name Barcelona players weren't in his plans. Again, I'm not expecting a shoeing, I want honesty and I want conviction. |
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Post by viking22 on Jun 4, 2023 22:14:19 GMT
Peter Schmeichel had a go at Dave's positioning for the 2nd goal.
āLook where he is in the goal. I put myself in that position and Iām thinking, āOK what I have to do now is be right in the middle of this triangle. If heās there, he gets a full hand to it. Heās a little bit too deep, he doesnāt follow the game. Thereās a rule as goalkeepers that you work so hard on, you work with that triangle, where the ball is, and you always have to be in the centre of that. You have to follow the ball around and I think he didnāt do that. He should have done better, I was very surprised that it went in.ā
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Post by unitedsotex on Jun 5, 2023 0:06:25 GMT
I think it's easy for us as supporters and lovers of this club to point out our failures this year and there a many... hell we've been through the shitter since SAF retired.
What I think we should keep our eyes on is what ETH has done that has moved the needle in the right direction.
Fucked off Ego Ronaldo
Got Rash scoring goals
Brought in Martinez who everyone slagged off in the media as not being big enough
GarfuckingNacho bursting onto the scene
Brazil Wonder Casemiro
Champions League return
A Cup win and another appearance
Got us playing better football than we've had in a long time
All of this while having the likes of Slabhead, Lazy ass Martial, McFred, Injuy roster a mile long, under performing Sancho, and only allowed to sign a stagnant horse in the winter
Antony has a lot of upside but we will need to see more from him next year. I get some are predisposed to being positive and I respect your opinion, I just believe we are in the best position going into a new season on the field than we've been in almost 10 yrs. New Owner injecting some serious money will set us up for something even bigger.
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Post by johnboy14 on Jun 5, 2023 6:31:44 GMT
Peter Schmeichel had a go at Dave's positioning for the 2nd goal. āLook where he is in the goal. I put myself in that position and Iām thinking, āOK what I have to do now is be right in the middle of this triangle. If heās there, he gets a full hand to it. Heās a little bit too deep, he doesnāt follow the game. Thereās a rule as goalkeepers that you work so hard on, you work with that triangle, where the ball is, and you always have to be in the centre of that. You have to follow the ball around and I think he didnāt do that. He should have done better, I was very surprised that it went in.ā His positioning was poor but he got his hand on the ball, considering how scuffy the shot was, he probably should still have saved it. |
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Post by redcase on Jun 5, 2023 7:04:51 GMT
Peter Schmeichel had a go at Dave's positioning for the 2nd goal. āLook where he is in the goal. I put myself in that position and Iām thinking, āOK what I have to do now is be right in the middle of this triangle. If heās there, he gets a full hand to it. Heās a little bit too deep, he doesnāt follow the game. Thereās a rule as goalkeepers that you work so hard on, you work with that triangle, where the ball is, and you always have to be in the centre of that. You have to follow the ball around and I think he didnāt do that. He should have done better, I was very surprised that it went in.ā His positioning was poor but he got his hand on the ball, considering how scuffy the shot was, he probably should still have saved it. His positioning was straight up awful for that goal there is no question about it. He was fucking ball watching for 5 seconds. |
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Post by Stew on Jun 5, 2023 7:26:03 GMT
Dave was so bad on that second goal that I immediately assumed it had taken a wicked deflection. The fact that it hadnāt was mind-blowing.
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Post by viking22 on Jun 5, 2023 7:37:38 GMT
And that is the problem really. If it was just his distribution that was erratic we could live with it for now and prioritize other positions. But big games are decided by thin margins and therefore we cannot afford to have a GK who is error prone. And I think that is why Spain dumped him and obviously easier for them to do so as they are a national team so have plenty of other options. Speaking of which David Raya is available for around Ā£40m. Dave was so bad on that second goal that I immediately assumed it had taken a wicked deflection. The fact that it hadnāt was mind-blowing.
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Post by kstandhand on Jun 5, 2023 9:57:09 GMT
Ā Ā And that is the problem really. If it was just his distribution that was erratic we could live with it for now and prioritize other positions. But big games are decided by thin margins and therefore we cannot afford to have a GK who is error prone. And I think that is why Spain dumped him and obviously easier for them to do so as they are a national team so have plenty of other options. Speaking of which David Raya is available for around Ā£40m.Ā Dave was so bad on that second goal that I immediately assumed it had taken a wicked deflection. The fact that it hadnāt was mind-blowing. The club don't appear to be in any great hurry to get him signed up,lets hope his days are numbered along with all the other deadwood. |
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Post by Paul on Jun 5, 2023 10:08:23 GMT
Ā Ā And that is the problem really. If it was just his distribution that was erratic we could live with it for now and prioritize other positions. But big games are decided by thin margins and therefore we cannot afford to have a GK who is error prone. And I think that is why Spain dumped him and obviously easier for them to do so as they are a national team so have plenty of other options. Speaking of which David Raya is available for around Ā£40m.Ā to get him signed up,lets hope his days are numbered along with all the other deadwood. When are we ever in a rush to do anything š. Takes them an hour to boil minute rice. |
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Post by Bestie on Jun 5, 2023 10:08:30 GMT
Dave was so bad on that second goal that I immediately assumed it had taken a wicked deflection. The fact that it hadnāt was mind-blowing. The ball went across most of the front of the 18 yard box so there will have been seven or eight or more players blocking de Gea's view of the ball. He still should have done better but realistically the set piece should have been better defended before Gundogan got his shot away. |
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