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Post by bushy1987 on Oct 30, 2023 11:13:18 GMT
Few more results like this and I'm sure they can start spinning the Qatar to bid again bullshit. Surprised Custis hasn't made another appearance yet. Can't be too far off. Yeah he normally pops up after these shit shows happen, they have spun that much shit there's probably nothing left to spin now. |
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Post by juanveron on Oct 30, 2023 11:15:44 GMT
I don't want ETH sacked because I think he is a tactical genius or the team/players are improving or I can see what he is trying to do or he has bought well. I don't want him sacked because it just means the cycle continues. Completely the wrong reason to keep a manager and says alot about the mess. Injuries are not an excuse to abandon or not have a style of play implemented. The glazers are not a reason to not a style of play implemented. ETH has had some serious cash spent, granted he is not the negotiator but that money has not been spent wisely. We made a HUGE mistake getting rid of Rangnick, he had it completely right in regards to what was needed to try and get matters on the pitch turned around, he was the competent Sporting director/DOF we needed provided he was completely backed to clearout at all costs. This season has been an absolute embarrassment, no point naming names as it's clear for all to see, the manager has to start showing something with the players, no more excuses, establish a style of play and start winning some games. Totally agree about Rangnick. It seems ETH conditioned signing for us with having full or near full control over transfers, this was not going to work with RR being set to be a de facto DOF (on top of being VERY honest about the situation), so we did what we have been doing for 10 years - tried to find a saviour instead of fixing the problem. We spent A LOT of money post-Fergie. With an actual plan, even with owners as bad as the Glazers, we should’ve AT LEAST been competitive. Worst run “top” club in the world. Pathetic. |
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Post by mightyez on Oct 30, 2023 11:17:21 GMT
Few more results like this and I'm sure they can start spinning the Qatar to bid again bullshit. They are gone with the wind. They got mugged off after having an agreement, I'd be fuming if i were them |
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Post by juanveron on Oct 30, 2023 11:17:57 GMT
By the way, one of the biggest reasons ETH is failing is the players we’ve brought in. It’s almost as if ETH needs someone to protect him from himself, because with better decisions I bet we’d have a far better squad using the money he spent, and he’d be doing far better coaching this team.
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Post by mightyez on Oct 30, 2023 11:19:18 GMT
I don't want ETH sacked because I think he is a tactical genius or the team/players are improving or I can see what he is trying to do or he has bought well. I don't want him sacked because it just means the cycle continues. Completely the wrong reason to keep a manager and says alot about the mess. Injuries are not an excuse to abandon or not have a style of play implemented. The glazers are not a reason to not a style of play implemented. ETH has had some serious cash spent, granted he is not the negotiator but that money has not been spent wisely. We made a HUGE mistake getting rid of Rangnick, he had it completely right in regards to what was needed to try and get matters on the pitch turned around, he was the competent Sporting director/DOF we needed provided he was completely backed to clearout at all costs. This season has been an absolute embarrassment, no point naming names as it's clear for all to see, the manager has to start showing something with the players, no more excuses, establish a style of play and start winning some games. Totally agree about Rangnick. It seems ETH conditioned signing for us with having full or near full control over transfers, this was not going to work with RR being set to be a de facto DOF (on top of being VERY honest about the situation), so we did what we have been doing for 10 years - tried to find a saviour instead of fixing the problem. We spent A LOT of money post-Fergie. With an actual plan, even with owners as bad as the Glazers, we should’ve AT LEAST been competitive. Worst run “top” club in the world. Pathetic. completely agree. A proper plan and we would be competitive. The lack of planning or lack of authority to set the right footballing tone is an absolute embarrassment. Cannot for the life of me understand why a club this big has failed on this. Jobs for mates!!! |
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Post by seanie on Oct 30, 2023 11:22:55 GMT
Whatever about the calamity of having to play a back four of Dalot, Maguire, Evans and Lindelof. That forward line is just so wrong at the moment it's a joke. It's almost unbelievable to have that many forwards and 10's and have 1 goal and assist between them in 10 games. They aren't much better in Europe either. I'd give Hojlund a pass as he is so young and inexperienced in a new team. He's also working damn hard with no service.
City's wide players were so good yesterday and their patterns of play to open it up are so good. I was never a big fan of Grealish and the price tag, but he is not just about running down blind alleys or going for goal. It's all organized to create space for the strikers or any attacking player and they are really clever in their movement, and Silva was outstanding again too. When it's time to make the killer pass or chip to the far post when the dopes are all sucked in towards the first runner they have the technical ability to see and make the pass. They know their forwards are reading it too. That's obviously from playing regularly together more, but it's just plain ability and great coaching.
We're just playing the same football from the last few years. Coach or players or both? That isn't anything like the football his teams were playing at Ajax.
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Post by seanie on Oct 30, 2023 11:30:49 GMT
Too many one trick go fast wingers and too many so called 10's. We need a ruthless clear out, but that's all been said before. It's just poor planning again
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Post by mightyez on Oct 30, 2023 11:59:23 GMT
'That is not in the DNA of Manchester United at all. The football at Ajax is very typical, here we will play much more directly. We also have the players for that, especially at the forefront.'
Fine but can it not be fast, aggressive direct football?
It's like ETH has allowed the club and players to defeat him. He has to fight for some style, if they can't play how you want then you need to be pushing them out the door if they won't be coached.
ETh is better than this
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Post by redcase on Oct 30, 2023 12:07:17 GMT
Part of me wanted to see him go 5 at the back yesterday. Not necessarily because I love the formation, but because it would at least show he’s thinking about what he’s doing. Same formation every week with largely the same players despite being in dreadful form all season. He doesn’t look out of ideas, he’s looking like he barely had an idea in the first place. Job seems too big for him doesn't it. He doesn't seem to have the stomach for it, nor is he a good judge of talent. Not to mention the tactics - that's nonexistent. Can't keep making excuses for him about him being pushed to failure. He is failing. Edit: I must say though sacking him solves nothing. Just resets the cycle. |
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Post by fergiegiveusawave on Oct 30, 2023 12:15:39 GMT
Part of me wanted to see him go 5 at the back yesterday. Not necessarily because I love the formation, but because it would at least show he’s thinking about what he’s doing. Same formation every week with largely the same players despite being in dreadful form all season. He doesn’t look out of ideas, he’s looking like he barely had an idea in the first place. Job seems too big for him doesn't it. He doesn't seem to have the stomach for it, nor is he a good judge of talent. Not to mention the tactics - that's nonexistent. Can't keep making excuses for him about him being pushed to failure. He is failing. Edit: I must say though sacking him solves nothing. Just resets the cycle. Agree. The situation is completely fucked as I have no faith in the manager but also zero idea where we go next. He looks and sounds spent but he has to show some fight now. Change up the system and drop the same underperformers. Fans are much more forgiving with young players, especially at this club. Garnacho has to start and I would like to see Hannibal back in the side, who was shunted back to the bench despite a few promising performances. |
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Post by mightyez on Oct 30, 2023 12:51:35 GMT
Job seems too big for him doesn't it. He doesn't seem to have the stomach for it, nor is he a good judge of talent. Not to mention the tactics - that's nonexistent. Can't keep making excuses for him about him being pushed to failure. He is failing. Edit: I must say though sacking him solves nothing. Just resets the cycle. Agree. The situation is completely fucked as I have no faith in the manager but also zero idea where we go next. He looks and sounds spent but he has to show some fight now. Change up the system and drop the same underperformers. Fans are much more forgiving with young players, especially at this club. Garnacho has to start and I would like to see Hannibal back in the side, who was shunted back to the bench despite a few promising performances. Seems like he has lost himself. Why the heck do you want to go direct when that's not what brought you success in the first place. How do you say you don't have the players when you have been the one bringing them in? He has to go back to his convictions, if he is gonna go out then best go out being true to himself |
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Post by Kamilo on Oct 30, 2023 12:57:58 GMT
ETH out. Admitted form doesn’t matter on selection and that he isn’t implementing a system. Just freestyle football and no tactics. It won’t solve anything but get him out.
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Post by king nothing on Oct 30, 2023 13:15:44 GMT
Part of me wanted to see him go 5 at the back yesterday. Not necessarily because I love the formation, but because it would at least show he’s thinking about what he’s doing. Same formation every week with largely the same players despite being in dreadful form all season. He doesn’t look out of ideas, he’s looking like he barely had an idea in the first place. Job seems too big for him doesn't it. He doesn't seem to have the stomach for it, nor is he a good judge of talent. Not to mention the tactics - that's nonexistent. Can't keep making excuses for him about him being pushed to failure. He is failing. Edit: I must say though sacking him solves nothing. Just resets the cycle. That edit just about sums up the whole shit show. |
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Post by viking22 on Oct 30, 2023 13:22:37 GMT
Some talk that Ratcliffe and his team are a fan of Graham Potter. I don't think you can judge him too harshly for his time at Chelsea. He's got a solid Premier League track record and tactically is very flexible and progressive. He might be able to get a lot more out of the current squad than Erik is doing and wouldn't insist on £400m to spend for another rebuild. And he might be the right man to steady the ship for a few years while Ratcliffe figures out how to get more control and builds a proper structure that can support a bigger name manager.
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Post by Karma on Oct 30, 2023 13:55:40 GMT
Potter is a free agent.
That’s why they’re interested.
Can’t believe there’s any club as bad as us for stumbling across managers based on availability rather than suitability.
I think Potter was the wrong fit for Chelsea from the off.
Brighton played some good football with him, but our goons wouldn’t have that at the forefront of their decision making.
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