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Post by Karma on Feb 5, 2024 10:06:48 GMT
Nothing has changed for me.
We’ve nearly 2 years in, yet to beat a big club away and still have a negative goal difference and leaking goals for fun.
No other manager would get away with this, seems to have a bit of a cult following though.
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Feb 5, 2024 10:57:04 GMT
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Post by mightyez on Feb 5, 2024 11:21:32 GMT
Nothing has changed for me. We’ve nearly 2 years in, yet to beat a big club away and still have a negative goal difference and leaking goals for fun. No other manager would get away with this, seems to have a bit of a cult following though. get what you are saying, we all wanted/want him to succeed but I have doubts on whether he can take us where the new management want the club to be with the whole football first thing going on. I do also have some concerns on what i see as favouritism, if the power is taken away from him on transfers you don't want a situation where he doesn't play the players. Antony matter is something I can't shake off, how that guy keeps getting on the pitch is mental. Diallo can't get a kick but would clearly offer more, even if 5 minutes here and there |
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Post by ratbag on Feb 5, 2024 11:54:02 GMT
Nothing has changed for me. We’ve nearly 2 years in, yet to beat a big club away and still have a negative goal difference and leaking goals for fun. No other manager would get away with this, seems to have a bit of a cult following though. get what you are saying, we all wanted/want him to succeed but I have doubts on whether he can take us where the new management want the club to be with the whole football first thing going on. I do also have some concerns on what i see as favouritism, if the power is taken away from him on transfers you don't want a situation where he doesn't play the players. Antony matter is something I can't shake off, how that guy keeps getting on the pitch is mental. Diallo can't get a kick but would clearly offer more, even if 5 minutes here and there You could add Omari Forson to that… |
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Post by Karma on Feb 5, 2024 11:56:54 GMT
Where’s the stat about getting battered by Liverpool and City at home ? That account is as top red as you can get. I’ve had many an argument with those fans. |
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Post by Stretty on Feb 5, 2024 12:01:59 GMT
Nothing has changed for me. We’ve nearly 2 years in, yet to beat a big club away and still have a negative goal difference and leaking goals for fun. No other manager would get away with this, seems to have a bit of a cult following though. I do also have some concerns on what i see as favouritism, if the power is taken away from him on transfers you don't want a situation where he doesn't play the players. Antony matter is something I can't shake off, how that guy keeps getting on the pitch is mental. Diallo can't get a kick but would clearly offer more, even if 5 minutes here and there This is exactly where i am. Lets make it simple for him(and the board). Top 4 your in. Below top 4 your out. I think that's a reasonable target. |
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Post by caino on Feb 5, 2024 12:35:07 GMT
Nothing has changed for me. We’ve nearly 2 years in, yet to beat a big club away and still have a negative goal difference and leaking goals for fun. No other manager would get away with this, seems to have a bit of a cult following though. No cult following about it. No manager in world football could sucede at this club with the management and players. It’s been a total mess with too many distractions - useless board, shocking attitude of players that he’s in process of getting rid of and a side made up of many players not his choosing. Not even bothered about top 4. I’d rather see his football style completely implemented with the young foundation of players and a clear plan of how we will play. Let him have a shot next year with a better board, better signings in the summer and a clear strategy from top to bottom. |
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Post by viking22 on Feb 5, 2024 13:18:26 GMT
I think he needs a strong team to succeed and doesn't deal well with adversity and firefighting.
My main issue with him is the recruitment. He will get more support once we appoint a competent DOF. And they will veto some of his proposed signings. But he isn't going to let someone else choose who to sign and his ideas are just so terrible and his ties with his Dutch agent are worrying as we are doing way too much business through them and need to be casting a much wider net.
Antony is laughably bad. Onana has been a disaster. Mount makes no sense and seems another example of Erik fancying a player but not considering fit. Amrabat hasn't impressed and is behind Scotty in the pecking order. You can give him a lot of credit for Martinez and Hojlund but that getting 1 out of every 3 signings right isn't going to get us back on top.
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Post by Karma on Feb 5, 2024 14:55:15 GMT
get what you are saying, we all wanted/want him to succeed but I have doubts on whether he can take us where the new management want the club to be with the whole football first thing going on.I do also have some concerns on what i see as favouritism, if the power is taken away from him on transfers you don't want a situation where he doesn't play the players. Antony matter is something I can't shake off, how that guy keeps getting on the pitch is mental. Diallo can't get a kick but would clearly offer more, even if 5 minutes here and there This is exactly where i am. Lets make it simple for him(and the board). Top 4 your in. Below top 4 your out. I think that's a reasonable target. Top 4 has to be the bare minimum, it’s bad enough that top 4 became the standard in the first place. If we drop expectations any further we’re well on the way to cementing ourselves as a mid table team. |
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Post by Stretty on Feb 5, 2024 15:19:37 GMT
This is exactly where i am. Lets make it simple for him(and the board). Top 4 your in. Below top 4 your out. I think that's a reasonable target. Top 4 has to be the bare minimum, it’s bad enough that top 4 became the standard in the first place. If we drop expectations any further we’re well on the way to cementing ourselves as a mid table team. agree with that and the top 4 target is only for this season with all the shit going on. After that title challenges and the last 4 of the CL has to be the bare minimum. |
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Post by unitedsotex on Feb 5, 2024 15:39:57 GMT
Antony and Onana will be the biggest highlight of concern when it comes to his decision making. Reasoning and excuses can be made but the fact of the matter is he still picks them to play... both are god awful. De Gea had a rough start to his United Career but settled in before the season ended while Onana has stayed shit and even got dropped by his country in a major tournament. Antony was held in check on the right by league 2 wing back for an entire match then celebrated a deflection goal like he scored in the CL Final, he will not live up to the price tag or hype....he had a 1 1/2 years to figure it out. Mount has been injured more than he's played so I can't give my opinion on him.
I agree with Stretty, Top 4 you keep your job anything less you are gone.
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Post by viking22 on Feb 6, 2024 10:57:09 GMT
Agree with him keeping his job if he makes Top 4. But we really do need a very strong DOF that can veto every dumb transfer idea Erik has and make it clear we won't pay over the odds just because Erik fancies a player or used to coach him.
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Post by ratbag on Feb 6, 2024 10:59:04 GMT
Agree with him keeping his job if he makes Top 4. But we really do need a very strong DOF that can veto every dumb transfer idea Erik has and make it clear we won't pay over the odds just because Erik fancies a player or used to coach him. Isn’t that pretty much the job description of a DoF? |
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Post by viking22 on Feb 6, 2024 11:44:52 GMT
Tell that to Murtough/Fletcher! But I think for proper clubs there are some variations in the degree of influence/control managers have in the recruitment process. We need to make sure that Erik is limited to making suggestions and expressing preferences over proposed targets on shortlists presented to him. Erik reportedly wants to retain a veto which is fair enough as you don't want to force players on managers. But we do not want a stalemate whereby Erik vetoes every idea that isn't his and continues to insist on signing players on his Dutch agent's books. Erik is stubborn and probably doesn't realize he is on thin ice so will be interesting to see how it works.
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Feb 12, 2024 7:13:47 GMT
96 games
59 wins (61.5% win rate)
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