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Post by Tatty on Apr 26, 2024 10:06:41 GMT
Ashworth compo is going to arbitration.
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Post by viking22 on Apr 26, 2024 10:16:21 GMT
Good. So long as we get him by July we should be OK. We can prioritize player sales until then so he has a proper idea of how much he is likely to have to spend and we can then prioritize accordingly.
A CB, DM, CF would be the priorities. And if we can get rid of Sancho or Antony could ideally do with a winger as well.
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Post by ratbag on Apr 26, 2024 14:28:09 GMT
Ashworth compo is going to arbitration. Due to be done by mid-July I believe… Hope so… |
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Post by viking22 on Apr 26, 2024 20:25:50 GMT
My fear is that INEOS will be keen to have Ashworth heavily involved in deciding whether to keep Erik or hire a replacement. And clearly Ashworth can't be having proper interviews with Erik or possibly replacements until the arbitration is settled and he is free to join us. And if that doesn't happen until very late in the summer I cannot see us changing manager in August so Erik will almost certainly get another season.
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Post by Stretty on Apr 26, 2024 20:47:06 GMT
My fear is that INEOS will be keen to have Ashworth heavily involved in deciding whether to keep Erik or hire a replacement. And clearly Ashworth can't be having proper interviews with Erik or possibly replacements until the arbitration is settled and he is free to join us. And if that doesn't happen until very late in the summer I cannot see us changing manager in August so Erik will almost certainly get another season. I think we will only start to see major improvements the season after next as it’s going to take time to bed everyone in and get around the 8 ins and 8 outs that are needed over the line. 1 summer with a brand new footballing structure will be nowhere near enough. |
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Post by viking22 on Apr 26, 2024 21:00:12 GMT
It is not even going to be 1 summer. Berrada has 6m gardening leave as well so won't be joining until July. We'd be lucky to get Ashworth before the transfer window closes. Wilcox is the only guy on board.
There might be something to be said for building up some dry powder for next summer rather than rushing into expensive transfer mistakes before the new team has had the chance to bed in and develop a solid plan to take the club forwards. The way FFP works if you underspend one summer you can then overspend the following summer.
The situation we are in was inevitable after the Glazers let the sale process drag on for so long. INEOS have done a wonderful job to line up Berrada, Wilcox and Ashworth so quickly. But gardening leave is a fact of life and most clubs are taking months to plan their summer business. Our new footballing structure won't be in place until middle of the summer at the earliest and even with their prior experience and little black books they are going to need time to assess the squad and sit together to decide on a long-term transfer strategy. And that is what we really need rather than panic buys late in the summer.
Also worth remembering that we aren't going to be in the Champions League next season. So we can do some good business in January. It's a Glazer myth that there are never any players available in January. Some of our best signings have been January arrivals e.g. Bruno, Vidic, Evra.
For me it is imperative that stop making expensive mistakes in the transfer market so that almost every single player we sign over the next few years strengthens the squad.
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Post by Sméagol on May 1, 2024 8:49:24 GMT
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Post by mightyez on May 1, 2024 10:01:39 GMT
A really good read.
I think the key thing coming out is that we aren’t setup with the right people off the pitch to drive any success on the pitch.
The club went from complacent, to arrogant to near irrelevance at the rate we were going.
INEOS clearing out the leaders off the pitch and I’d think once Ashworth comes in officially, it’s full steam ahead to getting matters in the pitch right.
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Post by Stretty on May 1, 2024 15:54:10 GMT
A really good read. I think the key thing coming out is that we aren’t setup with the right people off the pitch to drive any success on the pitch. The club went from complacent, to arrogant to near irrelevance at the rate we were going. INEOS clearing out the leaders off the pitch and I’d think once Ashworth comes in officially, it’s full steam ahead to getting matters in the pitch right. 100% spot on. Good post. |
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Post by anti_social on May 1, 2024 18:14:47 GMT
Most important thing in that (excellent) article for me was the CFO departure. As Grafton writes, it shows INEOS are taking much more control than simply "footballing operations" - they're taking economic control. No downside for the Glazers - if INEOS do a good job, the scum get even richer, and if they balls it up they have a fall guy in Jim. From Jim's POV, probably another step towards full control one day (I dare to dream...)
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Post by ratbag on May 2, 2024 6:02:20 GMT
Jim is not daft...
I believe that his ultimate aim is for full control and this is just a stepping stone on the way...
Edit: I think he will eventually find a way to buy the Glazers out...
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Post by Karma on May 2, 2024 9:06:39 GMT
Jim is not daft... I believe that his ultimate aim is for full control and this is just a stepping stone on the way... Edit: I think he will eventually find a way to buy the Glazers out... If he keeps ETH he is. |
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Post by viking22 on May 2, 2024 11:53:07 GMT
I think SJR just feels he isn't competent to make the final decision on ETH or identify a suitable replacement and of the new structure he's putting in place only Wilcox is actually allowed to work for us. Berrara isn't joining until July. Ashworth it depends on the outcome of the arbitration which I assume will set the compensation we have to pay but it might not be until the end of the summer.
We've seen what happens with caretaker managers e.g. Ralf. The players just down tools because they know they will outlast him.
So maybe the best option is to keep Erik one more season which will give enough time for the new team to identify a suitable long term replacement.
But if that is the path we take we have to make it clear to Erik that he won't have control over transfers as we cannot afford any more flops.
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Post by Karma on May 3, 2024 10:52:17 GMT
The decision should have already been made.
No CL with 4 games to go.
Moyes was sacked for the same.
LVG took it to the last day of the season , missed out to City on goal difference and was sacked after the cup final which we won.
The club happy to become mid table plodders or waiting for Southgate’s contract to run out later on this year ? 🧐
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Post by viking22 on May 3, 2024 13:08:00 GMT
Erik is underperforming and isn't the right man for the job. I think most of us agree on that.
But what is the point of paying him £10m in compensation when no suitable replacement has been lined up?
Players haven't downed tools for Erik. I can't imagine he will be given much say in recruitment this summer. And INEOS aren't going to rush into a decision over a new manager and will want a thorough selection process involving multiple rounds of interviews with all the relevant people and most of them haven't even finished their gardening leave! And that selection process needs to be informed by a long term footballing philosophy and that will take time to formulate.
So unless there is a standout candidate I can understand the logic of letting Erik see out his contract.
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