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Post by Chris on Mar 4, 2024 10:29:28 GMT
Linked with Tuchel today to replace ETH. Fucking hell. Someone who has somehow failed at Bayern. I'm not bothered about Erik staying or not. It's who we replace him with and the list is fucking shite. It's going to be even worse since Barca and Liverpool are looking for new managers. We are so fucked whoever comes in. He did win the CL with Chelsea though and he's a hard ass which seems appropriate right now with these players. Tuchel is one of those managers, when he gets it right, his teams can be formidable. Personally, I'd go to Brighton and get De Zebri. He's young, tactically very good and he improves players and we might just have the right people who can get the players we need for a change. We don't need a big name, people are talking about Jose and Tuchel but there's zero guarantees in football. Let's try something different. Yeah, I'd go De Zerbi too. I doubt he'll win anything with us, but I like how Brighton play. Forget trophies. Even just watching us play entertaining football would be a good start. |
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Post by Kojak on Mar 4, 2024 11:00:08 GMT
Thing with Amad is, even if he’s not that good or quite average at this level, he’s better than Antony. Definitely. Purely based on that he should be unhappy with his playing time.
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Post by Karma on Mar 4, 2024 11:16:05 GMT
This is why Martinez is so important. He is the only defender who can receive the ball under pressure and pass effectively. And his left-sided connection with Shaw is also vital to the team. Losing both of them is a hammer blow. Another left back needed in summer. I think his injury record of late is worse than Varane’s. It’s just gone under the radar. Typical of us to dump Regullion in January while Amrabat is stinking out the place. We chose to do that. |
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Post by Karma on Mar 4, 2024 11:17:35 GMT
C’mon , let’s be honest he’s not good enough either. Our fans must be the worst when it comes to overestimating the worth of our players. That money could have been better spent elsewhere. You watched him a lot a Sunderland then I take it? No, I watch my own club instead. In the same way I didn’t watch Beckham when he played for Preston. |
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Post by redcase on Mar 4, 2024 12:12:01 GMT
It has to be Alonso.
Yes he played for Liverpool at some point in his life where he won sweet fuckall, but if Ratcliffe isn't at least trying to bring him in, then he has already failed.
Alonso to me, is best in class right now. De Zerbi cannot manage the fucking glut of overpaid egos that we've accumulated here. Alonso has supreme accomplishments as a player to call upon, and with his league victory in Germany he would be come in as a winner. That's who we have to target.
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Post by Karma on Mar 4, 2024 12:49:55 GMT
It has to be Alonso. Yes he played for Liverpool at some point in his life where he won sweet fuckall, but if Ratcliffe isn't at least trying to bring him in, then he has already failed. Alonso to me, is best in class right now. De Zerbi cannot manage the fucking glut of overpaid egos that we've accumulated here. Alonso has supreme accomplishments as a player to call upon, and with his league victory in Germany he would be come in as a winner. That's who we have to target. Be worth it for scouse seething alone. |
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Post by seanie on Mar 4, 2024 12:58:30 GMT
It has to be Alonso. Yes he played for Liverpool at some point in his life where he won sweet fuckall, but if Ratcliffe isn't at least trying to bring him in, then he has already failed. Alonso to me, is best in class right now. De Zerbi cannot manage the fucking glut of overpaid egos that we've accumulated here. Alonso has supreme accomplishments as a player to call upon, and with his league victory in Germany he would be come in as a winner. That's who we have to target. It's unlikely, but they have to go for it, in the way they never did with Klopp and Guardiola and despite what people say, if we had people with a plan and charisma we should have got one of them when the time was right! I don't see why we shouldn't go for Alonso just because he has a connection to the other clubs, if it is sold right and they have real ambition. In some ways it would be a smart decision for him too as the expectation of the others and walking into someone else's shoes against a clean break to build something at arguably the biggest club in the world should be very attractive! I'm not totally against keeping Ten Hag, as I think this season would have been impossible for any coach. He has been dealt a very bad hand, but he hasn't played it well either this year with some of his own decisions in the market, you would expect that to be corrected this summer and some of these young players to be even better going forward. Garnacho, Hojlund and Mainoo in particular. I think getting rid of Ten Hag going into a third season that no coach has been afforded since Fergie, would be a mistake, but if they are going to do it then Alonso would be the one, if they can persuade him. If they sack Ten Hag and go for De Zerbi, it's just the easy option for Ashworth and co |
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Post by Stew on Mar 4, 2024 13:05:26 GMT
You watched him a lot a Sunderland then I take it? No, I watch my own club instead. In the same way I didn’t watch Beckham when he played for Preston. So how can you possibly tell if Amad is good enough then? Considering he’s played a handful of minutes for Utd? |
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Post by Stretty on Mar 4, 2024 14:01:54 GMT
It has to be Alonso. Yes he played for Liverpool at some point in his life where he won sweet fuckall, but if Ratcliffe isn't at least trying to bring him in, then he has already failed. Alonso to me, is best in class right now. De Zerbi cannot manage the fucking glut of overpaid egos that we've accumulated here. Alonso has supreme accomplishments as a player to call upon, and with his league victory in Germany he would be come in as a winner. That's who we have to target. It's unlikely, but they have to go for it, in the way they never did with Klopp and Guardiola and despite what people say, if we had people with a plan and charisma we should have got one of them when the time was right! I don't see why we shouldn't go for Alonso just because he has a connection to the other clubs, if it is sold right and they have real ambition. In some ways it would be a smart decision for him too as the expectation of the others and walking into someone else's shoes against a clean break to build something at arguably the biggest club in the world should be very attractive! I'm not totally against keeping Ten Hag, as I think this season would have been impossible for any coach. He has been dealt a very bad hand, but he hasn't played it well either this year with some of his own decisions in the market, you would expect that to be corrected this summer and some of these young players to be even better going forward. Garnacho, Hojlund and Mainoo in particular. I think getting rid of Ten Hag going into a third season that no coach has been afforded since Fergie, would be a mistake, but if they are going to do it then Alonso would be the one, if they can persuade him. If they sack Ten Hag and go for De Zerbi, it's just the easy option for Ashworth and co Fair point as Sir Matt Busby played for Liverpool and city. Anyway i think ETH will be the last Manger in the traditional sense and we will correctly move down the head coach route. |
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Post by seanie on Mar 4, 2024 14:17:45 GMT
It's unlikely, but they have to go for it, in the way they never did with Klopp and Guardiola and despite what people say, if we had people with a plan and charisma we should have got one of them when the time was right! I don't see why we shouldn't go for Alonso just because he has a connection to the other clubs, if it is sold right and they have real ambition. In some ways it would be a smart decision for him too as the expectation of the others and walking into someone else's shoes against a clean break to build something at arguably the biggest club in the world should be very attractive! I'm not totally against keeping Ten Hag, as I think this season would have been impossible for any coach. He has been dealt a very bad hand, but he hasn't played it well either this year with some of his own decisions in the market, you would expect that to be corrected this summer and some of these young players to be even better going forward. Garnacho, Hojlund and Mainoo in particular. I think getting rid of Ten Hag going into a third season that no coach has been afforded since Fergie, would be a mistake, but if they are going to do it then Alonso would be the one, if they can persuade him. If they sack Ten Hag and go for De Zerbi, it's just the easy option for Ashworth and co Fair point as Sir Matt Busby played for Liverpool and city. Anyway i think ETH will be the last Manger in the traditional sense and we will correctly move down the head coach route. Cool Carlo is 65 this year, so you would imagine Real will strike and they usually get their man. It would be a long shot for us |
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Post by johnboy14 on Mar 4, 2024 14:33:28 GMT
It has to be Alonso. Yes he played for Liverpool at some point in his life where he won sweet fuckall, but if Ratcliffe isn't at least trying to bring him in, then he has already failed. Alonso to me, is best in class right now. De Zerbi cannot manage the fucking glut of overpaid egos that we've accumulated here. Alonso has supreme accomplishments as a player to call upon, and with his league victory in Germany he would be come in as a winner. That's who we have to target. It's unlikely, but they have to go for it, in the way they never did with Klopp and Guardiola and despite what people say, if we had people with a plan and charisma we should have got one of them when the time was right! I don't see why we shouldn't go for Alonso just because he has a connection to the other clubs, if it is sold right and they have real ambition. In some ways it would be a smart decision for him too as the expectation of the others and walking into someone else's shoes against a clean break to build something at arguably the biggest club in the world should be very attractive! I'm not totally against keeping Ten Hag, as I think this season would have been impossible for any coach. He has been dealt a very bad hand, but he hasn't played it well either this year with some of his own decisions in the market, you would expect that to be corrected this summer and some of these young players to be even better going forward. Garnacho, Hojlund and Mainoo in particular. I think getting rid of Ten Hag going into a third season that no coach has been afforded since Fergie, would be a mistake, but if they are going to do it then Alonso would be the one, if they can persuade him. If they sack Ten Hag and go for De Zerbi, it's just the easy option for Ashworth and co He'll be hounded by Liverpool supporters but I agree, we should be atleast trying to make it happen if he's a viable candidate. |
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Post by viking22 on Mar 4, 2024 14:36:26 GMT
Average wide players like Elanga and Lingard and Dan James have been given more gametime than Amad. I don't think he's got world class potential but when you consider how poor Antony and Rashford have been this season he at least deserves a bit of a chance to impress. At the very least it puts him in the shop window so we can sell him for cash this summer rather than our usual loan + option to buy deals.
Not buying a defender was a mistake. A versatile young central defender would have made a significant difference this season. Bizarre really that Mount was our first signing when there were no other suitors and he had a only a year left on his contract and an attacking midfielder didn't seem like a priority as we already had Bruno. And perhaps if we'd signed a versatile young central defender early in the summer Maguire might have been more willing to contemplate a move away. And we could have always sold Lindelof to make room.
This reliance on late loan deals to fill any gaps has also been a bit of a curse. Reguilon and Amrabat have made next to no impact. Last season Weghorst and Sabitzer similarly failed to impress. In fact this season the only outfield player we signed who has made any kind of impact has been Hojlund. While Onana so far has been a major downgrade on Dave. And when you consider all the gaps in the squad and the decline in form of Casemiro and Rashford and Martinez and Shaw's injury woes it is not surprising we are struggling this season.
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Post by gdmm on Mar 4, 2024 15:09:53 GMT
I’m surprised people are surprised at the shit show we are with these clowns and their stooges.
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Post by Paul on Mar 4, 2024 16:54:13 GMT
I don't know if Amad is good enough or not, maybe he is, maybe he isnt. But he absolutely should be getting enough game time to prove it. With the players we have out atm its the perfect time aswell.
Definitely deserves to be coming on before dross like Antony.
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Post by johnboy14 on Mar 4, 2024 18:06:01 GMT
I don't know if Amad is good enough or not, maybe he is, maybe he isnt. But he absolutely should be getting enough game time to prove it. With the players we have out atm its the perfect time aswell. Definitely deserves to be coming on before dross like Antony. ETH has given young players a chance. Sure Amad went to Rangers and stunk the place out. Where's this "he deserves a chance" coming from? |
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