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Post by _ on Feb 14, 2014 15:52:18 GMT
At 31 he should be in his prime enjoying his footy but on the pitch he looks a shadow of last season. After the Arsenal game I no longer think he is crucial and if he leaves so be it. Fergie bought him like Ruud, after a long period of recovery, benefiting from a refreshed player, and hoping to make a difference. A deliberate buy to win the league. It worked but too well and he has become the talisman of many, including me. I think he is way off form, motivation and mindset. If Dubai brings him round fine, if he wants out fine, but his presence, along with the other squad travellers wandering the pitch like lost souls is no longer acceptable.
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Post by unitedsotex on Feb 14, 2014 19:05:41 GMT
Honestly anyone who wants to leave, they can shove off. You look at Liverpool and when they were doing the same thing we are doing right now. they were able to keep the core guys and sign some good players to boost them up. If you aren't willing to fight to bring the team back up then you don't deserve the praise or credit when it happens.
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Post by _ on Feb 15, 2014 7:06:58 GMT
Latest rumour is that Wenger met with RVP's agent last month. Don't know if that's accurate at all, but to be honest it really wouldn't surprise me. RVP came here expecting to spend a few seasons under Fergie. If you don't believe that was a massive part of him leaving le Arse, you're deluded (just look at his body language last season and compare it to now). One season under Fergie and now RVP finds himself in the footballing stone ages with a manager who, aptly, has all the personality of a rock. I actually wouldn't be shocked if he wants out. We all know Arsenal still wouldn't win the title. And then Mata could have his 10 spot. Would actually be kind of funny. Arsenal wouldn't win and their fans would drive themselves insane. |
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Feb 18, 2014 13:22:58 GMT
It'd be so strange if he went back to Arsenal, none of us can and would really blame him as he's at his peak and, quite frankly, I reckon Wenger could get more out of him than DD. He wanted to win a trophy (he has) and one of the big reasons he came was to play under Fergie. He's not a target striker, hence the 81 CPG (crosses per game - a stat we'll need to start utilizing)won't benefit him at all.
The longer the season goes on the more I think he's off.
David Moyes, the crusher of dreams and the pillager of Art.
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Post by mutley on Feb 18, 2014 13:42:47 GMT
I don't think he wants to go. I think he might be doing a bit of a PHC (but not in a contract/wages way) and using it to declare his displeasure at formations and tactics. I hope it gives DD a kick up the arse in terms of playing better and more fluid formations to give RVP the type of service that he deserves which will see him (and us) happy. Just a thought and perhaps wishful thinking but I don't see him being as petulant as PHC.
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Post by NR7 on Feb 18, 2014 13:56:56 GMT
I don't think he wants to go. I think he might be doing a bit of a PHC (but not in a contract/wages way) and using it to declare his displeasure at formations and tactics. I hope it gives DD a kick up the arse in terms of playing better and more fluid formations to give RVP the type of service that he deserves which will see him (and us) happy. Just a thought and perhaps wishful thinking but I don't see him being as petulant as PHC. Every unhappy player will resort to this. We should have made a lesson out of PHC and sent a message that no matter who, won't bow down to egos and player power bollocks. |
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Post by 0 on Feb 18, 2014 14:42:17 GMT
If he wants out, fuck him. Nobody is irreplaceable. Certainly not at this club. Cavani will prove a more than capable replacement, and an ideal partner for Wazza in August  |
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Post by NR7 on Feb 18, 2014 15:06:20 GMT
Yeah, fuck RVP, Kags, Chicha or anybody else not named PHC. We don't bend over for players who wanted out sure. It's certainly never happened before at this club. PHC is set to be rewarded for his "loyalty", sure  The only ideal partner for PHC is a new club. |
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Post by mutley on Feb 18, 2014 15:51:57 GMT
TBH I don't think RVP has much choice. Despite past press coverage of his desire to work with PHC it just doesn't seem to be happening. I can't remember the stats totally but is it four passes between them and three of those were from the kick off! Without WUM'ing here I think for as long as DD kowtows to PHC then RVP is stuffed. I don't think he wants out but the way things are football wise in terms of service, fluid passing, link up play and even simple communication on the field, he seems to have no choice. He doesn't strike me as petulant in the same way as PHC and in this instance I have more sympathy for RVP if he is trying to make a point and would not be happy at the prospect of him going in return for keeping PHC on what looks like a ridiculous contract. I believe that at least his motives are football focused and not about wages etc.
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Post by unitedsotex on Feb 18, 2014 19:58:13 GMT
I stand by what I what I said. If ANYONE wants to leave they can F#$K off sharpish, just won't sell them to competition like other have to us. We aren't stupid like that.
RVP has scored in every game except the last one against Arsenal and Mata even though won't play Chelski this year can still hurt there chances by helping us win.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2014 21:02:08 GMT
All this talk of RVP wanting back to Le Arse is bollocks. Laziest form of journalism I have ever seen.
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Post by Jayrannasaurus on Feb 20, 2014 8:35:35 GMT
www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2563413/Robin-van-Persie-happier-Dutch-squad-Manchester-United-claims-Louis-Van-Gaal.htmlVan Persie is happier in Dutch squad than at United, claims Van Gaal 'I think he should be great in the tournament because he loves to play in the Dutch squad,' said Van Gaal, whose side kick off the tournament against champions Spain. 'The football from Man Utd now is for him maybe difficult a little shit and very predictable but then he wishes to show his techniques. Techniques in the Dutch team for him is higher. 'He has shown that all the qualification matches more than ever because he’s our top scorer and I hope he can continue this.'
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Post by reefer on Feb 20, 2014 8:51:00 GMT
www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2563413/Robin-van-Persie-happier-Dutch-squad-Manchester-United-claims-Louis-Van-Gaal.htmlVan Persie is happier in Dutch squad than at United, claims Van Gaal 'I think he should be great in the tournament because he loves to play in the Dutch squad,' said Van Gaal, whose side kick off the tournament against champions Spain. 'The football from Man Utd now is for him maybe difficult a little shit and very predictable but then he wishes to show his techniques. Techniques in the Dutch team for him is higher. 'He has shown that all the qualification matches more than ever because he’s our top scorer and I hope he can continue this.' You can easily argue that RVP needs to grow a pair, man up and get on with what he is paid to do, however that may be very difficult being as our tactics are very poor in the first place, so perhaps thats what they are alluding to when they mention technique etc... If this is all true, then its pretty dam poor a player of RVP's quality is ruined by DD antics... Worryingly bad press for us again, considering our impending spending spree and attracting top players.... |
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Post by sharsh_U4L on Feb 20, 2014 10:08:49 GMT
So Rooney shoiuld be fucked twice then? Obviously not. Thank God Double standards, ehhhmm !! |
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Post by thesituation on Mar 3, 2014 21:53:07 GMT
If RVP does fuck off in the summer, there could be a few hard truths come out about Moyes and his training/tactics approach
The little boy inside of him could let loose
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